On 13 Dec 2011 10:31:20 GMT, "Paul - xxx"
wrote:

Pendrag0n wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:15:22 +0000, Pendrag0n wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:07:16 -0000, "DieSea"
wrote:


"GrahamX" wrote in message
... You also put: "site fees
averaging about £10pw".

The CLs I use are £10-12 per night (not per week).
That's £300-360 per month. Not much of a saving if any.
Regards, Graham.

Thanks Graham, yes I meant per night. It depends I guess on how much
HB reckons is reasonable per week. I am assuming that they would
think £300pm was ok to pay. Not sure where I would stand with
council tax either. I'm guessing if I get HB I would need to pay CT
too, and so that would also make it less appealing.

Don't forget that there is a maximum time you can spend on a CL
before you have to leave ( 28 days ?? )

Yes I was aware of something like that. But the plan was to maybe
have two or three sites to rotate eventually.

I've heard of one commercial site that charges about £100.00 a
month plus electric , but closes from 1st of January until the
1st of March

When I get to see my friend again I'll try to find out where

That would be handy knowledge.

I see seasonal pitches are also an option for year round occupation
for around £2k.
CCC rules state
*The unit may be occupied on Site for recreational
purposes only, subject to a maximum of 21 nights for
any one visit. An interval of at least 3 nights must elapse
before a return visit to the unit*

That's around £40pw which aint bad at all, and I presume if it was a
club site receipts would not be a problem. Sounds perfick, cos it
includes electric anyway so that means no more bills. If I did go for
year round seasonal pitch, presumably eventually you could choose
prime spot on site as well.

In fact that sounds like a brilliant option. Cos even if I could get a
site for £10pn that works out much more expensive. Am I missing
something?

You need somewhere else for at least three nights each month .. or a
second caravan on a second seasonal pitch ..

Yes I had noticed this. That means say 3x£30 B&B each month. around
£250pm, so still a good deal, especially if I get most of it paid in
HB, which is not definite as it needs to go to rent referral officer.

I wonder if one can put a touring van on residential sites, but I
suppose if so then the prices would be much higher anyway!

"Recreational purposes only" might be a stumbling block, maybe just say
you're writing a book and need to get away a lot!

Yes (thanks to Roy for also pointing this out). I have written to CCC
to clarify exactly what this means. I guess as long as you're not
working etc it should be fine.

OTOH, other, non-club sites might, indeed do, have different rules.
I'd look towards commercial sites that like people staying on them
through winter etc if only to stop other people thinking it's empty!

I'd suggest that living that long in the 'van would need an electric
hook-up and a shower block as bare minimum ...

You bet lol

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:36:23 +0000, Pendrag0n wrote:

On 13 Dec 2011 10:31:20 GMT, "Paul - xxx"
wrote:

Pendrag0n wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:15:22 +0000, Pendrag0n wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:07:16 -0000, "DieSea"
wrote:


"GrahamX" wrote in message
... You also put: "site fees
averaging about £10pw".

The CLs I use are £10-12 per night (not per week).
That's £300-360 per month. Not much of a saving if any.
Regards, Graham.

Thanks Graham, yes I meant per night. It depends I guess on how much
HB reckons is reasonable per week. I am assuming that they would
think £300pm was ok to pay. Not sure where I would stand with
council tax either. I'm guessing if I get HB I would need to pay CT
too, and so that would also make it less appealing.

Don't forget that there is a maximum time you can spend on a CL
before you have to leave ( 28 days ?? )

Yes I was aware of something like that. But the plan was to maybe
have two or three sites to rotate eventually.

I've heard of one commercial site that charges about £100.00 a
month plus electric , but closes from 1st of January until the
1st of March

When I get to see my friend again I'll try to find out where

That would be handy knowledge.

I see seasonal pitches are also an option for year round occupation
for around £2k.
CCC rules state
*The unit may be occupied on Site for recreational
purposes only, subject to a maximum of 21 nights for
any one visit. An interval of at least 3 nights must elapse
before a return visit to the unit*

That's around £40pw which aint bad at all, and I presume if it was a
club site receipts would not be a problem. Sounds perfick, cos it
includes electric anyway so that means no more bills. If I did go for
year round seasonal pitch, presumably eventually you could choose
prime spot on site as well.

In fact that sounds like a brilliant option. Cos even if I could get a
site for £10pn that works out much more expensive. Am I missing
something?

You need somewhere else for at least three nights each month .. or a
second caravan on a second seasonal pitch ..

Yes I had noticed this. That means say 3x£30 B&B each month. around
£250pm, so still a good deal, especially if I get most of it paid in
HB, which is not definite as it needs to go to rent referral officer.

oops that should be £90 every 21 days and if my maths serves me well
that's 15 of those B&B periods a year (CC do 48hrs gaps, but seem
quite strict on the NOT residential wording). So that's £1350 + £2080
(£40pw). If they don't pay for the B&B I'd still be no better off
then I am now!

Pendrag0n said the following on 13/12/2011 17:11:

oops that should be £90 every 21 days and if my maths serves me well
that's 15 of those B&B periods a year (CC do 48hrs gaps, but seem
quite strict on the NOT residential wording). So that's £1350 + £2080
(£40pw). If they don't pay for the B&B I'd still be no better off
then I am now!

As I said - Job Done and my favourite sites do not turn into 'Dale Farms'

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:47:30 +0000, Roy wrote:

Pendrag0n said the following on 13/12/2011 17:11:

oops that should be £90 every 21 days and if my maths serves me well
that's 15 of those B&B periods a year (CC do 48hrs gaps, but seem
quite strict on the NOT residential wording). So that's £1350 + £2080
(£40pw). If they don't pay for the B&B I'd still be no better off
then I am now!

As I said - Job Done and my favourite sites do not turn into 'Dale Farms'

Oi...residents of Dale farm would never lower themselves to CC/CCC
sites...have you seen the gear they have!

Pendrag0n said the following on 13/12/2011 17:55:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:47:30 +0000, wrote:

Pendrag0n said the following on 13/12/2011 17:11:

oops that should be £90 every 21 days and if my maths serves me well
that's 15 of those B&B periods a year (CC do 48hrs gaps, but seem
quite strict on the NOT residential wording). So that's £1350 + £2080
(£40pw). If they don't pay for the B&B I'd still be no better off
then I am now!

As I said - Job Done and my favourite sites do not turn into 'Dale Farms'

Oi...residents of Dale farm would never lower themselves to CC/CCC
sites...have you seen the gear they have!


Yes

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:59:32 +0000, Roy wrote:

Pendrag0n said the following on 13/12/2011 17:55:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:47:30 +0000, wrote:

Pendrag0n said the following on 13/12/2011 17:11:

oops that should be £90 every 21 days and if my maths serves me well
that's 15 of those B&B periods a year (CC do 48hrs gaps, but seem
quite strict on the NOT residential wording). So that's £1350 + £2080
(£40pw). If they don't pay for the B&B I'd still be no better off
then I am now!

As I said - Job Done and my favourite sites do not turn into 'Dale Farms'

Oi...residents of Dale farm would never lower themselves to CC/CCC
sites...have you seen the gear they have!

Yes

Shocking. Money obviously no object. Wonder if seasonal pitch would
allow a tarmac lorry to park up next to my van!

"Pendrag0n" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

I have a long term illness

I've a friend who recently tried living under similar conditions. They have
just decided that the health risk is too great. I'd reconsider if I were
you.

There is a bit difference between even a month in a motorhome/caravan when
you are fit in the summer and a few days when you are ill in cold winter.

Regards

Brian

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:50:35 -0000, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

"Pendrag0n" wrote in message
.. .
Hello all,

I have a long term illness

I've a friend who recently tried living under similar conditions. They have
just decided that the health risk is too great. I'd reconsider if I were
you.

There is a bit difference between even a month in a motorhome/caravan when
you are fit in the summer and a few days when you are ill in cold winter.

Regards

Brian

Sadly I'm guessing you are probably right Brian. If not physically,
but the stress of trying to coordinate it all with housing benefit
etc.

Back to plan B.....now what was that again!

"Pendrag0n" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 22:50:35 -0000, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

"Pendrag0n" wrote in message
. ..
Hello all,

I have a long term illness

I've a friend who recently tried living under similar conditions. They
have
just decided that the health risk is too great. I'd reconsider if I were
you.

There is a bit difference between even a month in a motorhome/caravan when
you are fit in the summer and a few days when you are ill in cold winter.

Regards

Brian

Sadly I'm guessing you are probably right Brian. If not physically,
but the stress of trying to coordinate it all with housing benefit
etc.

Back to plan B.....now what was that again!

I hope things work out for you. I'm trying to help my friend find a proper
home.

Brian