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Old February 11th 07, 07:39 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
motorhomeman
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I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??

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Old February 11th 07, 08:43 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Nigel
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"motorhomeman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??


Bill:

We had a van Aaken chip/box fitted to our 2.8JTD Ducato based (automatic)
motorhome.

The difference that it has made is remarkable - MPG about the same as
before, but much more torque and 'oomph' - particularly noticeable when
accelerating away from a start, overtaking or going up a motorway slip road.

Nigel


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Old February 11th 07, 09:08 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Dave Fawthrop
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:43:37 -0000, "Nigel"
wrote:

|!
|!"motorhomeman" wrote in message
groups.com...
|! I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
|! underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
|! have found for sale on several sites??
|!
|!
|!Bill:
|!
|!We had a van Aaken chip/box fitted to our 2.8JTD Ducato based (automatic)
|!motorhome.
|!
|!The difference that it has made is remarkable - MPG about the same as
|!before, but much more torque and 'oomph' - particularly noticeable when
|!accelerating away from a start, overtaking or going up a motorway slip road.

How much extra did it cost you on insurance?
My insurance has the usual insistence on *no modifications*
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Old February 11th 07, 09:11 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
ToxOgrady
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Default Chipping


"Nigel" wrote in message
...

"motorhomeman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??


Bill:

We had a van Aaken chip/box fitted to our 2.8JTD Ducato based (automatic)
motorhome.

The difference that it has made is remarkable - MPG about the same as
before, but much more torque and 'oomph' - particularly noticeable when
accelerating away from a start, overtaking or going up a motorway slip
road.

Nigel



All well and good but the OP doesn't have a common rail diesel. Depending on
the age ( ~97 ) it might have a small ecu which controls fueling relative
to temperature, but nothing more elabortate.

However there are several UK specialists who can get the 'XUD9' engine from
90 to ~115 without a great deal of effort. Its just a mechanical way of
increasing fueling & harnessing more of the turbo pressure. Instead of
search for 'chipping' , try search for Peugeot / Citroen XUD tuning

:-)


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Old February 11th 07, 11:28 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Mike
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Default Chipping

I chipped my HDI 110bhp Citroen C5 estate to 132bhp (14 months ago). Self
fitting it takes me about 4 mins to fit or remove - albeit I fashioned a 12"
long plug holder to enable easier fitting. In towing terms the benefits are
in better towing acceleration and it holds 5th much easier on longer tows.
Despite the claims that they can improve fuel efficiency I found the "chip"
reduces the MPG by about 2/3 mpg over normal. All in all its proved a
worthwhile benefit for me.

Mike

"ToxOgrady" wrote in message
...

"Nigel" wrote in message
...

"motorhomeman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??


Bill:

We had a van Aaken chip/box fitted to our 2.8JTD Ducato based (automatic)
motorhome.

The difference that it has made is remarkable - MPG about the same as
before, but much more torque and 'oomph' - particularly noticeable when
accelerating away from a start, overtaking or going up a motorway slip
road.

Nigel



All well and good but the OP doesn't have a common rail diesel. Depending
on the age ( ~97 ) it might have a small ecu which controls fueling
relative to temperature, but nothing more elabortate.

However there are several UK specialists who can get the 'XUD9' engine
from 90 to ~115 without a great deal of effort. Its just a mechanical way
of increasing fueling & harnessing more of the turbo pressure. Instead of
search for 'chipping' , try search for Peugeot / Citroen XUD tuning

:-)




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Old February 11th 07, 11:46 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
ToxOgrady
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Default Chipping

Mike,
Can you give details of what/where/how much. I have a Xsara HDI 110 and was
a bit cautious about plug-in ones. But if I can do it cheap enough, I'd have
a real blast with a little Xsara packing 130+bhp.



"Mike" wrote in message
...
I chipped my HDI 110bhp Citroen C5 estate to 132bhp (14 months ago). Self
fitting it takes me about 4 mins to fit or remove - albeit I fashioned a
12" long plug holder to enable easier fitting. In towing terms the benefits
are in better towing acceleration and it holds 5th much easier on longer
tows. Despite the claims that they can improve fuel efficiency I found the
"chip" reduces the MPG by about 2/3 mpg over normal. All in all its proved
a worthwhile benefit for me.

Mike

"ToxOgrady" wrote in message
...

"Nigel" wrote in message
...

"motorhomeman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??


Bill:

We had a van Aaken chip/box fitted to our 2.8JTD Ducato based
(automatic)
motorhome.

The difference that it has made is remarkable - MPG about the same as
before, but much more torque and 'oomph' - particularly noticeable when
accelerating away from a start, overtaking or going up a motorway slip
road.

Nigel



All well and good but the OP doesn't have a common rail diesel. Depending
on the age ( ~97 ) it might have a small ecu which controls fueling
relative to temperature, but nothing more elabortate.

However there are several UK specialists who can get the 'XUD9' engine
from 90 to ~115 without a great deal of effort. Its just a mechanical way
of increasing fueling & harnessing more of the turbo pressure. Instead of
search for 'chipping' , try search for Peugeot / Citroen XUD tuning

:-)






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Old February 11th 07, 01:24 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
David
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Default Chipping


"motorhomeman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??


Not sure on the chipping.
But at my recent service centre i was talking to them about a new service
they have for reprogramming the management of my Diesel engine to get better
consuption out of.
They had to feed the details of my car exactly into a computer to see what
the results would be. It came up with the result no improvement could be
made to mine
They warned me other garages might not be so honest. Take my money and
have done nothing.

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Old February 11th 07, 02:13 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
chipshop
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Default Chipping

Who are these paragons of honesty??
An honest mechanic is as rare as an honest politician.
I'd be more than willing to drive a long way to a garage that I could trust.

Regards

chipshop


David wrote:
"motorhomeman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??


Not sure on the chipping.
But at my recent service centre i was talking to them about a new service
they have for reprogramming the management of my Diesel engine to get better
consuption out of.
They had to feed the details of my car exactly into a computer to see what
the results would be. It came up with the result no improvement could be
made to mine
They warned me other garages might not be so honest. Take my money and
have done nothing.

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Old February 11th 07, 03:23 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Richard Cole
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Default Chipping

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:28:35 -0000, "Mike" wrote:

I chipped my HDI 110bhp Citroen C5 estate to 132bhp (14 months ago). Self
fitting it takes me about 4 mins to fit or remove - albeit I fashioned a 12"
long plug holder to enable easier fitting. In towing terms the benefits are
in better towing acceleration and it holds 5th much easier on longer tows.
Despite the claims that they can improve fuel efficiency I found the "chip"
reduces the MPG by about 2/3 mpg over normal. All in all its proved a
worthwhile benefit for me.

Mike

Out of curiosity, how much extra was you motor insurance after chipping?

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Old February 11th 07, 03:53 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Alan Holmes
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Default Chipping


"chipshop" wrote in message
...
Who are these paragons of honesty??
An honest mechanic is as rare as an honest politician.
I'd be more than willing to drive a long way to a garage that I could
trust.

Regards

chipshop


David wrote:
"motorhomeman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Elnagh Marlin based on a Fiat Ducato 1.9 TD, which is
underpowered. Does anyone have experience of fitting "chips" which I
have found for sale on several sites??


Only just read this topic, so:-

What are these 'chips' you are talking about?

Alan


 



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