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1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gps

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Old November 26th 04, 08:37 AM posted to uk.rec.boats.power,uk.rec.camping,uk.rec.caravanning,uk.rec.cars.4x4,uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Dave Fawthrop
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Default 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gps

This has been posted on uk.net.news.config.
The official post to this ng fell foul of crosposting limits :-(

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SOD of the CFV is quoted below:

PROPONENT's Summary of Discussion

The discussion of the two RFDs has been unusually fractious and
factional, even for unnc. There were several groups each opposing all
others, whose positions are summarized below:

That advice given on the proposed u.r.gps may involve danger to some,
but reject the argument that advice given on most newsgroups may involve
danger to some.

That gps is a tool and not a recreation, and the proposed ng in the
uk.rec hierarchy is inappropriate, but reject the argument that a car is
just a tool for getting from A to B.

That "gps" is an abbreviation and as such should not be used in
newsgroup names, as some will not understand it, despite the fact that
the vast majority of existing uk.* posts use "gps".

That the group should be named uk.rec.satellite-nav, which they believe
would be more understandable to a majority of potential subscribers,
despite the fact that the vast majority of existing uk.* posts use

That existing: non uk.* gps groups sci.geo.satellite-nav
alt.satellite.gps, alt.satellite.gps.garmin, alt.satellite.gps.magellan,
have sufficient gps discussion for the needs of uk users. Because gps
is by definition global gps discussions should be global. A
specifically UK newsgroup to discuss uk specific subjects such as, use
in the uk, OS mapping, UK laws, UK regulations and other national issues
is inappropriate, despite the about 800 gps threads per year on uk.*.

That existing uk.* groups have sufficient gps discussion, and uk.rec.gps
is not required.

That gps discussion should be in uk.rec.(existing ng).gps, or
uk.(existing ng).gps, etc. but no such RFD has been raised for any of
the about 26 ngs suggested by this group.

That uk.tech.gps should be created, which would require a different RFD
and would create a completely different newsgroup. They are unwilling to
RFD it and prefer to oppose this RFD.

That a choice be given between the various disparate and competing
options, or groups of options.

That anything associated with the proponent should be rejected.

Many people support the creation of uk.rec.gps.

Dave F
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Old November 27th 04, 05:04 AM posted to uk.rec.camping,uk.rec.waterways
Will Chapman
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Default 1st CFV : Create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.gps

Dave Mayall wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:47:59 +0100, martin wrote:

This has been posted on uk.net.news.config.
The official post to this ng fell foul of crosposting limits :-(

I have recently been told on urw that one is not allowed to do this
and that the whole CFV may be declared null and void.

That's only posting the whole CFV.

Dave posted to tell people where to find the CFV.

And I posted what the bloke handling the vote sent me so I doubt
if there is any danger of falling foul of cross-posting restrictions as
to vote involves a fair amount of effort.


Will Chapman


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