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New gas regulators


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Old October 24th 03, 04:15 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
DEX
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Default New gas regulators

On the new 2004 caravans the gas regulator will be 30Mb for both Butane and
Propane. I find it hard to believe this will satisfactory for both gases. I
feel that either the propane will not perform adequately or the butane will
be overpressured and burn too fiercely. Before I purchase a connecting pipe
I wonder what the opinions of the readers of this group are.

Dex


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Old October 25th 03, 12:47 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Peter Milnes
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Default New gas regulators

No problem if the burners air inlet is adjusted appropriately. I don't think
anyone will use both gases whilst caravanning so there should be no problem
provided that an expert adjusts the gas/air ratio correctly for whichever gas is
going to be used.

Cheers, Peter.

"DEX" wrote in message
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: On the new 2004 caravans the gas regulator will be 30Mb for both Butane and
: Propane. I find it hard to believe this will satisfactory for both gases. I
: feel that either the propane will not perform adequately or the butane will
: be overpressured and burn too fiercely. Before I purchase a connecting pipe
: I wonder what the opinions of the readers of this group are.
:
: Dex
:
:

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Old October 25th 03, 09:17 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Nomad
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Default New gas regulators

Hang on a minute I thought you could freely interchange between the two
types of gasses ? If you can adjust the burners why cannot you retrofit
older vans with the new regulator?
Nomad
"Peter Milnes" wrote in message
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No problem if the burners air inlet is adjusted appropriately. I don't

think
anyone will use both gases whilst caravanning so there should be no

problem
provided that an expert adjusts the gas/air ratio correctly for whichever

gas is
going to be used.

Cheers, Peter.

"DEX" wrote in message
...
: On the new 2004 caravans the gas regulator will be 30Mb for both Butane

and
: Propane. I find it hard to believe this will satisfactory for both

gases. I
: feel that either the propane will not perform adequately or the butane

will
: be overpressured and burn too fiercely. Before I purchase a connecting

pipe
: I wonder what the opinions of the readers of this group are.
:
: Dex
:
:



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Old October 25th 03, 09:53 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Doc
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Default New gas regulators


Nomad muttered:
Hang on a minute I thought you could freely interchange between the two
types of gasses ? If you can adjust the burners why cannot you retrofit
older vans with the new regulator

and
"Peter Milnes scribed:
No problem if the burners air inlet is adjusted appropriately. I don't

think
anyone will use both gases whilst caravanning so there should be no

problem
provided that an expert adjusts the gas/air ratio correctly for

whichever
gas is
going to be used.

answering
"DEX" who'd pondered:
: On the new 2004 caravans the gas regulator will be 30Mb for both

Butane
and
: Propane. I find it hard to believe this will satisfactory for both

gases. I
: feel that either the propane will not perform adequately or the butane

will
: be overpressured and burn too fiercely. Before I purchase a connecting

pipe
: I wonder what the opinions of the readers of this group are.

----****----
Fear not guys, you can use either Propane or Butane, or a mixture of both,
without changing any jets or doing any adjustments. I have inadvertantly
used the wrong pressure regulators on appliances from ~20 years ago, with no
problems. Modern appliances are compatible with different gases at the
single 30mb pressure.

There are two, incompatible, 'fixed' regulator systems which allow the use
of either propane or butane, and the use of different cylinders from
different countries.

The one by Truma, used by the UK makers, uses a bayonet fixing of
high-pressure hoses to connect the fixed regulator to the relevant cylinder.
Different cylinders requiring different hose (~12) connectors.

The other system by GDK (German) is used widely by continental makers, and
uses a single regulator permanenetly attached to the 'van's gas line by a
flexible, low-pressure hose. Different brass adapters (~3) allow different
cylinders to be attached to the regulator. I use Calor propane, Camping Gaz
and French Twinny (propane), cylinders. No problemo.

Cost considerations, and the use of just low-pressure hose, make the GDK
system more advantageous to me; plus the fact that it's what my Hobby came
with!!

They should not be retro-fitted, because the hose connections of the GDK
system, and the regulator to gas-line connection on the Truma system, use
proprietry, and/or crimped connections, (not jubilee clips) which require
specialist fitting tools. Any alteration of the GDK system will invalidate
the 'van's warranty and will not be done (legally) by any German dealer.

Hope this helps allay your concerns,
Cheers, Doc.


 


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