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I have a three way Electrolux fridge and when switched to gas the pilot
light works but the fridge does not get cold. Any advice on whether it can be repaired and where I might fin details. Thanks |
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"Barney" [email protected](no spam)jbarnfield.freeserve.co.uk wrote in
: I have a three way Electrolux fridge and when switched to gas the pilot light works but the fridge does not get cold. Any advice on whether it can be repaired and where I might fin details. Thanks You are on the level aren't you? Spent ages messing with my Electrolux in the past when someone said - is your spirit level really level.... Wonky fridge = warm beer/wine/etc..... I had a problem with mine that it kept fusing when switched to hookup mains - local caravan dealer helped me with a repair agent. Helly. |
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![]() "Helgina Koosmaen" wrote in message ... "Barney" [email protected](no spam)jbarnfield.freeserve.co.uk wrote in : I have a three way Electrolux fridge and when switched to gas the pilot light works but the fridge does not get cold. Any advice on whether it can be repaired and where I might fin details. Thanks pop over to the self build motorcaravaners club www.sbmcc.com on their forum there's recently been a thread where someone had the same problem, i did most of the replies, and apparantly it got sorted out, Basicaly the burner was not functioning as it should, this was deducted by one of my comments that the riser tube (one that goes vertical next to the chimney) then bends 90 degrees to the left and goes horizontal through a finned section) should be skin removingly hot, the bloke who's fridge wasn't working on gas (worked fine on other power sources, so the usual sit it upside down for 24 hours to re-absorb the amonia crystals was of no use) found that although the flame looked good, the riser tube only got luke warm, he replaced parts of the burner (starting with the jet, then the actual flame tube, and finaly the gauze flame spreader) and got his working again.. this was after i gave detailed instructions on how to sweep the chimney, make sure the baffle is in place and so on.. all the stuff that gets done in a service, but a caravan shop would charge you the best part of a hundered quid note to do, The thread on the forum in question is on the 2nd page, titeled 'Fridge Servicing' it actually starts out with another bloke asking how much a fridge service costs, when when we tell him how to do it him self, someone else asks a Q relating to it, so more info is given, onto getting them re-charged (not possible), and finaly i think one of the comments spurs another person to check something with his fridge that hasnt worked on gas since he got it, and he finds out the flame isn't hot enough. and it cost him next to nothing to fix in the end. |
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![]() "Barney" [email protected](no spam)jbarnfield.freeserve.co.uk wrote in message ... I have a three way Electrolux fridge and when switched to gas the pilot light works but the fridge does not get cold. They dont like standing for a long time. We had the same problem with our old camper. Make sure the gas is on and lit. Look through the view glass at the bottom back inside the fridge. If you've got a nice steady ring of small jets you should be level enough to be ok ( I've noticed our newer 10yr old version is a lot less fussy). Having found nothing obviously wrong or missing we switched it on for half an hour, then switched off disconnected and found a local bumpy road and ran it up and down for a while. Then tried it again at home. It took 2 attempts and then it ran like a dream even performing quite well on a slope. It seems as they get older and unused for some time the gas forms into pockets??( not sure about the tech side of that) They can be regassed by a fridge engineer if theres been a leak. They can take up half an hour or more to get cold in the first place as theres no moving parts. The system just relies on the flame expanding the gas and pushing it round the system. Once they get going theyre quite efficient. ![]() |
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![]() "Dennis Vogel" wrote in message ink.net... I had one that worked, but not very well. I talked to a factory rep here in the US who advised me to remove the fridge and turn it upside down for a few hours. It's called burping. I guess they get some kind of a bubble trapped. that's kinda what happens, as hilary said they don't like being left un used, the technobabble bit is that the coolant in the tubes is made up of amonia disolved in water and a few other chemicals, over time the top half of the cooling system dry's out, and crystals form, this blocks the smaller tubes, and the fridge don't cool, leaving the unit upside down for 24 hours soaks the top half of the pipes in the cooling fluid, and lets the crystals that were formed when the cooling system dried out get re-disolved into the mixture, most of the time it works, some times it dosent. someone on the sbmcc bought a fridge that was advertised as not working, he only wanted the heater elements from it, but he left it upside down over night, and tried it out the next day.. just in case, and he now owns a perfectly working fridge, bought for next to nothing because the origional owners didn't know about the burping thing. |
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![]() "CampinGazz" wrote in message ... that's kinda what happens, as hilary said they don't like being left un used, the technobabble bit is that the coolant in the tubes is made up of amonia disolved in water and a few other chemicals, over time the top half of the cooling system dry's out, and crystals form, this blocks the smaller tubes, and the fridge don't cool, leaving the unit upside down for 24 hours soaks the top half of the pipes in the cooling fluid, and lets the crystals that were formed when the cooling system dried out get re-disolved into the mixture, Thanks for the explanation. I'd sort of got the gist of it but didnt really understand what was happening. ![]() |
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"Helgina Koosmaen" wrote in message ... "Barney" [email protected](no spam)jbarnfield.freeserve.co.uk wrote in : I have a three way Electrolux fridge and when switched to gas the pilot light works but the fridge does not get cold. Any advice on whether it can be repaired and where I might fin details. Thanks pop over to the self build motorcaravaners club www.sbmcc.com on their forum there's recently been a thread where someone had the same problem, i did most of the replies, and apparantly it got sorted out, Interesting info - hope that Barney/John got his fridge fixed - I've actually found now, tried over summer, that a combination of 3-way fridge and also the new picnic-style coolbox with the Peltier fan assisted chill device built into the lid to be an ideal combination. I travel solo in my VW T3 and the coolbox is bungee strapped to the passenger seat and runs from the leisure battery below. Ideal for sites when I can't get a level and also good to drop the fresh/frozen shopping into until I get to the next site and can put it away properly. Seems all of these boxes do a good job - I got from a car boot sale trader. The fan is fairly quiet to leave it running at night though I'm wary of it draining the battery. Notice more and more of these being used in motorhomes nowadays or by the tenting community for which I suppose they are an ideal solution and better to keep the milk cool than in a bucket of water..... What are other people's experiences with them? Helly. |
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![]() Here's more repeated from another US thread: "Damage due to tilting can occur regardless of the heat source. Sealed ammonia systems are made entirely of steel tubing and vessels, because ammonia is highly reactive to all affordable non-ferrous metals such as copper and aluminum. The refrigerant contains three to five percent of chromium dioxide by weight to retard internal corrosion of the steel. When the boiler is tilted, the refrigerant at the resulting shallow edges is completely boiled away, resulting in formation of chromium dioxide crystals. The crystals can become numerous and large enough to plug internal passages. That's why a dead refrigerator sometimes comes to life after being upside down for a day or so. The crystals are dislodged from their obstruction points, then re-dissolved when the boiler is heated and the refrigerant starts flowing again." Dennis I had one that worked, but not very well. I talked to a factory rep here in the US who advised me to remove the fridge and turn it upside down for a few hours. It's called burping. I guess they get some kind of a bubble trapped. Dennis They dont like standing for a long time. We had the same problem with our old camper. Make sure the gas is on and lit. Look through the view glass at the bottom back inside the fridge. If you've got a nice steady ring of small jets you should be level enough to be ok ( I've noticed our newer 10yr old version is a lot less fussy). Having found nothing obviously wrong or missing we switched it on for half an hour, then switched off disconnected and found a local bumpy road and ran it up and down for a while. Then tried it again at home. It took 2 attempts and then it ran like a dream even performing quite well on a slope. It seems as they get older and unused for some time the gas forms into pockets??( not sure about the tech side of that) They can be regassed by a fridge engineer if theres been a leak. They can take up half an hour or more to get cold in the first place as theres no moving parts. The system just relies on the flame expanding the gas and pushing it round the system. Once they get going theyre quite efficient. ![]() |
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On 2 Sep 2003 22:11:56 GMT, Helgina Koosmaen
wrote: I travel solo in my VW T3 and the coolbox is bungee strapped to the passenger seat and runs from the leisure battery below. Ideal for sites when I can't get a level and also good to drop the fresh/frozen shopping into until I get to the next site and can put it away properly. Seems all of these boxes do a good job - I got from a car boot sale trader. The fan is fairly quiet to leave it running at night though I'm wary of it draining the battery. Notice more and more of these being used in motorhomes nowadays or by the tenting community for which I suppose they are an ideal solution and better to keep the milk cool than in a bucket of water..... What are other people's experiences with them? There's only two real problems: - most are only capable of cooling to (something like) 20 degrees below ambient, which is fine most of the time but can be a problem if you have a summer like this year when it reached 38 degrees in the shade; - they commonly draw about four amps, which will flatten even a big leisure battery in a day. So long as you take these limitations into consideration, they're perfectly good bits of kit. -- QrizB I sound like I know what I'm talking about, but don't be fooled. |
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