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Old June 10th 08, 08:23 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
ForeverArsenal
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Hi Bill.
If you recall spoke to you few weeks back and you gave lots of useful
info on the Hymer Nova 545.

Picking your brains again,appears the vam has Tyron safety bands fitted to
the
alloy wheels.
Do these come as standard on the Hymer do you know ??.

Had 4 days in it last weekend doing few jobs how I want it.

Most surprised of the build of van,no more cutting a small hole
with a stanley knife though the 3mm spaced out ply,had to get the big tools
out
to get though the 12 mm wood wall..

Spent some time trying to fill onboard water tank :-( after I was given bum
info from dealer.

Was told to connect pump to van(the most powerful pump I've seen) to
the metal connecter,open hot taps till water flows freely,then put taps in
cold
water position and that would then fill onboard tank,did it ****.

The fixed bed was a joy,really comfortable,really did enjoy the van.

Still think the onboard water tank bung crap idea,have now fitted 19mm tap
to the drain pipe under van.
Has another stupid waste of a 13 amp socket BEHIND the bed headboard,
makes one wonder what the Germans get up :-) .

Many thanks.
Barry

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Old June 10th 08, 11:06 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
bill lord
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:23:44 +0100, "ForeverArsenal"
wrote:

Hi Bill.
If you recall spoke to you few weeks back and you gave lots of useful
info on the Hymer Nova 545.

Picking your brains again,appears the vam has Tyron safety bands fitted to
the
alloy wheels.
Do these come as standard on the Hymer do you know ??.


No they must be an after fit, very good idea though.

Had 4 days in it last weekend doing few jobs how I want it.

Most surprised of the build of van,no more cutting a small hole
with a stanley knife though the 3mm spaced out ply,had to get the big tools
out
to get though the 12 mm wood wall..


That's the way they do it, it's all quite solidly done. I had just too
many problems with screws coming loose for my liking, but once they
were sorted everything has been fine.


Spent some time trying to fill onboard water tank :-( after I was given bum
info from dealer.

Was told to connect pump to van(the most powerful pump I've seen) to
the metal connecter,open hot taps till water flows freely,then put taps in
cold
water position and that would then fill onboard tank,did it ****.


Whatever you do do not connect the pump to the metal connector and
then turn the outside switch on, this will blow the seals that keep
the two systems separate and will cost you to replace. It will not
stop you using the internal tank but it will stop you using the
aquaroll as your only source. To fill the tank put the pump into the
aquaroll, open the filler cap put the end of the pipe down the filler
hole, ( do not let go or you will get soaked ) and then turn the
switch on and stand looking like a wally until the tank is full.

The fixed bed was a joy,really comfortable,really did enjoy the van.

Still think the onboard water tank bung crap idea,have now fitted 19mm tap
to the drain pipe under van.


I never questioned it, it just worked and seemed a very simple and
almost foolproof solution.

Has another stupid waste of a 13 amp socket BEHIND the bed headboard,
makes one wonder what the Germans get up :-) .


We have two on the worktop by the door, one recessed over the sink
unit ( never use it ) and one on the front shelf under the window.
Bill Lord
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Old June 11th 08, 07:34 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
ForeverArsenal
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"bill lord" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:23:44 +0100, "ForeverArsenal"
wrote:

Hi Bill.
If you recall spoke to you few weeks back and you gave lots of useful
info on the Hymer Nova 545.


Whatever you do do not connect the pump to the metal connector and
then turn the outside switch on, this will blow the seals that keep
the two systems separate and will cost you to replace.?????,please explain
more Bill if poss ?

.................................................. ................................
It will not
stop you using the internal tank but it will stop you using the
aquaroll as your only source.
.................................................. .................................
Hi Bill,thanks for reply and info.

I'm a little confused by your statment above,this is what I did
first time out.

With a full aqaroll I connected the blue pipe on the pump to the
metal connector/opened one of the hot taps in van/ went back outside
and turned switch on,wife watching over taps until water was flowing
without sputter/ close that tap and opened the other hot tap @ wash
basin until that flowed nicely without sputter,this filled the hot system.

Is the above correct way of filling hot water heater ??,have I done thing
correctly.
.................................................. .................................................. ...

It was at this point according to the dealer that the internal tank would
start to fill
automaticlly after filling hot tank/pipes etc,of couse they where not
correct.

.................................................. .................................................. .....
To fill the tank put the pump into the
aquaroll, open the filler cap put the end of the pipe down the filler
hole, ( do not let go or you will get soaked ) and then turn the
switch on and stand looking like a wally until the tank is full.

.............
That is the way I have been filling internal tank after the dealers info was
proved
to be incorrect.
.................................................. ............................
Still a little concerned over *blowing seal between the two systems tho.

Barry


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Old June 11th 08, 10:55 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
bill lord
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:34:45 +0100, "ForeverArsenal"
wrote:


"bill lord" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:23:44 +0100, "ForeverArsenal"
wrote:

Hi Bill.
If you recall spoke to you few weeks back and you gave lots of useful
info on the Hymer Nova 545.


Whatever you do do not connect the pump to the metal connector and
then turn the outside switch on, this will blow the seals that keep
the two systems separate and will cost you to replace.?????,please explain
more Bill if poss ?


I have never tried it, but when I collected my nice new toy in 2003
the bloke from Lowdhams who handed the caravan over to me and
demonstrated everything particularly said never to pug the lead in
and then turn on the external pump, he said that there are seals in
the system which are supposed to stop the water going into the
internal tank if the aquaroll is being used as a main source and which
allow water through from the internal tank when that is being used as
source. Presumably these are non return valves.
................................................. ................................
It will not
stop you using the internal tank but it will stop you using the
aquaroll as your only source.
................................................. .................................
Hi Bill,thanks for reply and info.

I'm a little confused by your statment above,this is what I did
first time out.

With a full aqaroll I connected the blue pipe on the pump to the
metal connector/opened one of the hot taps in van/ went back outside
and turned switch on,wife watching over taps until water was flowing
without sputter/ close that tap and opened the other hot tap @ wash
basin until that flowed nicely without sputter,this filled the hot system.

Is the above correct way of filling hot water heater ??,have I done thing
correctly.


I had not considered it, but it looks like a good enough way of doing
it, I would not do it as I would be concerend about the valves in the
system ( having been warned about them ) but it does sound to be a
good idea. What I have always done is to fill my aquaroll, pump the
whole lot of it into the internal tank, then go inside and open the
hot water tap on the sink, as soon as it runs I turn it over to
running cold water. Then go to the bathroom sink and do the same so as
to prevent air locks. Then I go and get another aquaroll and pump that
in as well and since I use a 30 litre aquaroll the two barrels just
fill the tank and the water heater.
................................................. .................................................. ...

It was at this point according to the dealer that the internal tank would
start to fill
automaticlly after filling hot tank/pipes etc,of couse they where not
correct.


Not according to the engineer up at Lowdhams

.................................................. .................................................. ..
To fill the tank put the pump into the
aquaroll, open the filler cap put the end of the pipe down the filler
hole, ( do not let go or you will get soaked ) and then turn the
switch on and stand looking like a wally until the tank is full.

............
That is the way I have been filling internal tank after the dealers info was
proved
to be incorrect.


It is the only way to do it.
................................................. ............................
Still a little concerned over *blowing seal between the two systems tho.


I never questioned it, I just did as I was told ( have been married 38
years so have got used to it :-) )
Bill Lord
I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money

e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
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Old June 11th 08, 11:35 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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"
................................................ .............................
Still a little concerned over *blowing seal between the two systems tho.



I had not considered it, but it looks like a good enough way of doing

it,

.................................................. ..............
Thanks Bill.
Going to van this weekend and will have another read of book.

I'm sure it stated in book that connecting to the metal connector
was the only way of filling the hot water system.

Will check weekend and post back Monday.
Thanks again.
Barry

.................................................. .....................
I never questioned it, I just did as I was told ( have been married 38
years so have got used to it :-) )
Bill Lord
I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money

e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
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Old June 12th 08, 12:15 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
bill lord
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:35:15 +0100, "ForeverArsenal"
wrote:

Thanks Bill.
Going to van this weekend and will have another read of book.

I'm sure it stated in book that connecting to the metal connector
was the only way of filling the hot water system.

Will check weekend and post back Monday.
Thanks again.
Barry


This is what my book says

-*HYMER Sanitary Fittings 10
o o Filling the Water System with Fresh Water (Swing/Nova)
Position the caravan horizontally.
Connect the 240 V power supply and switch on the safety cut-out (66).
Switch off the operating switch (75): The red control lamp (75,1) is no longer illuminated.
Close the drainage valve. Close the white valve cap (76,1) by turning it clockwise. =11
Place water pump in the fresh water canister and close the cap tightly.
Set all the water taps to central position "Hot" and open them. This will turn on the water pump.
Keep the taps open until the water has no bubbles in it. This is the only way to ensure that the boiler is also full of water.
Set all water taps to "Cold" and leave them open. This will fill the cold water pipes with fresh water.
Keep the taps open until the water flowing out of the taps has no bubbles in it.
Close all the water taps.
Close the fresh water filler neck.


It does not actaully make any mention of how to fill the internal
tank. Mind you after 5 years I can assure you that my method works
and that the hot water tank always fills, you just need to select
which source of cold water you want ( internal pump or external pump )
on the switch on the bed locker front, then when you open the taps as
long as there is water in whichever tank you have selected the hot
water tank will fill. It's just like the old carver cascade in that
respect.
Bill Lord
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e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
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