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experience never just presume its the caravan at fault



 
 
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Old April 23rd 11, 08:26 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
les[_2_]
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Default experience never just presume its the caravan at fault

Bought an old megane a year ago (y reg) I normally tow with my Volvo S80 but decided as the megane is diesel and has a tow bar with electrics fitted would check it out for towing.
The caravan had been stood over winter so attached the caravan to the megane and the indicators on the offside were not working, thinking as the caravan was stood all winter it would be that, 2 hours later after checking the caravan out I started checking out the car system.

The electrics were all genuine Renault parts but found that the nearside had been completed and the offside had missing wiring connections.

Contacted the previous owner who told me that he had spent a fortune having it all done by a Renault dealer as he didn't trust either doing it himself or letting a independent do it, he had fallen ill and had never towed his van.

I wired in the missing parts and all worked, I recon looking at the way it was done the mechanic had done one side partially started on the other and got called away.

Just shows though its not always the caravans fault!!!
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Old April 23rd 11, 02:24 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Woody[_3_]
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Default experience never just presume its the caravan at fault

"les" wrote in message
...
Bought an old megane a year ago (y reg) I normally tow with my
Volvo S80 but decided as the megane is diesel and has a tow bar
with electrics fitted would check it out for towing.
The caravan had been stood over winter so attached the caravan to
the megane and the indicators on the offside were not working,
thinking as the caravan was stood all winter it would be that, 2
hours later after checking the caravan out I started checking out
the car system.

The electrics were all genuine Renault parts but found that the
nearside had been completed and the offside had missing wiring
connections.

Contacted the previous owner who told me that he had spent a
fortune having it all done by a Renault dealer as he didn't trust
either doing it himself or letting a independent do it, he had
fallen ill and had never towed his van.

I wired in the missing parts and all worked, I recon looking at
the way it was done the mechanic had done one side partially
started on the other and got called away.

Just shows though its not always the caravans fault!!!



A few years ago a relative bought a BMW 3 series and had the
towbar 'professionally' fitted. They were staying at a site not
far from here and rang to say that the fridge had melted during
their 120mile or so journey. I went to the site and had a look.
There was the 12S cable neatly run in at the back, across the
side of the boot, down the side and....... Not connected. They
needed the fridge so I ran a wire to make it work. When they got
back they had a go at the garage (BMW dealer) but they were
effectively to to prove their fault or go away.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com


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Old April 25th 11, 04:15 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
KAW[_2_]
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Default experience never just presume its the caravan at fault

On 23/04/2011 15:24, Woody wrote:
wrote in message
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Bought an old megane a year ago (y reg) I normally tow with my
Volvo S80 but decided as the megane is diesel and has a tow bar
with electrics fitted would check it out for towing.
The caravan had been stood over winter so attached the caravan to
the megane and the indicators on the offside were not working,
thinking as the caravan was stood all winter it would be that, 2
hours later after checking the caravan out I started checking out
the car system.

The electrics were all genuine Renault parts but found that the
nearside had been completed and the offside had missing wiring
connections.

Contacted the previous owner who told me that he had spent a
fortune having it all done by a Renault dealer as he didn't trust
either doing it himself or letting a independent do it, he had
fallen ill and had never towed his van.

I wired in the missing parts and all worked, I recon looking at
the way it was done the mechanic had done one side partially
started on the other and got called away.

Just shows though its not always the caravans fault!!!



A few years ago a relative bought a BMW 3 series and had the
towbar 'professionally' fitted. They were staying at a site not
far from here and rang to say that the fridge had melted during
their 120mile or so journey. I went to the site and had a look.
There was the 12S cable neatly run in at the back, across the
side of the boot, down the side and....... Not connected. They
needed the fridge so I ran a wire to make it work. When they got
back they had a go at the garage (BMW dealer) but they were
effectively to to prove their fault or go away.


Mrwal of the story --- use a specialist towbar fitter.
In my experience most car dealers have'nt a clue about towbars and wiring.
To be fair my local Toyota dealer doesn't attempt to fit them but farms
the work out to a specialist.
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Old April 25th 11, 04:26 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
DieSea[_2_]
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Default experience never just presume its the caravan at fault


"KAW" wrote in message
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On 23/04/2011 15:24, Woody wrote:
wrote in message
...
Bought an old megane a year ago (y reg) I normally tow with my
Volvo S80 but decided as the megane is diesel and has a tow bar
with electrics fitted would check it out for towing.
The caravan had been stood over winter so attached the caravan to
the megane and the indicators on the offside were not working,
thinking as the caravan was stood all winter it would be that, 2
hours later after checking the caravan out I started checking out
the car system.

The electrics were all genuine Renault parts but found that the
nearside had been completed and the offside had missing wiring
connections.

Contacted the previous owner who told me that he had spent a
fortune having it all done by a Renault dealer as he didn't trust
either doing it himself or letting a independent do it, he had
fallen ill and had never towed his van.

I wired in the missing parts and all worked, I recon looking at
the way it was done the mechanic had done one side partially
started on the other and got called away.

Just shows though its not always the caravans fault!!!



A few years ago a relative bought a BMW 3 series and had the
towbar 'professionally' fitted. They were staying at a site not
far from here and rang to say that the fridge had melted during
their 120mile or so journey. I went to the site and had a look.
There was the 12S cable neatly run in at the back, across the
side of the boot, down the side and....... Not connected. They
needed the fridge so I ran a wire to make it work. When they got
back they had a go at the garage (BMW dealer) but they were
effectively to to prove their fault or go away.


Mrwal of the story --- use a specialist towbar fitter.
In my experience most car dealers have'nt a clue about towbars and wiring.
To be fair my local Toyota dealer doesn't attempt to fit them but farms the work
out to a specialist.



Most of the car dealers round here send it to a specialist tow bar fitter

Then double the price the specialist charged

--

TeeHee

DieSea


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Old April 25th 11, 04:37 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
KAW[_2_]
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Default experience never just presume its the caravan at fault

On 25/04/2011 17:26, DieSea wrote:
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On 23/04/2011 15:24, Woody wrote:
wrote in message
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A few years ago a relative bought a BMW 3 series and had the
towbar 'professionally' fitted. They were staying at a site not
far from here and rang to say that the fridge had melted during
their 120mile or so journey. I went to the site and had a look.
There was the 12S cable neatly run in at the back, across the
side of the boot, down the side and....... Not connected. They
needed the fridge so I ran a wire to make it work. When they got
back they had a go at the garage (BMW dealer) but they were
effectively to to prove their fault or go away.


Mrwal of the story --- use a specialist towbar fitter.
In my experience most car dealers have'nt a clue about towbars and wiring.
To be fair my local Toyota dealer doesn't attempt to fit them but farms the work
out to a specialist.



Most of the car dealers round here send it to a specialist tow bar fitter

Then double the price the specialist charged

Well unbelievably the dealer charged me the trade price from the
specialist , considerably less than the specialist quoted me direct.
Very helpful salesman (and he's still got his job!!!!)
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Old April 25th 11, 05:08 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Woody[_3_]
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Default experience never just presume its the caravan at fault

"KAW" wrote in message
...
On 23/04/2011 15:24, Woody wrote:
wrote in message
...
Bought an old megane a year ago (y reg) I normally tow with my
Volvo S80 but decided as the megane is diesel and has a tow
bar
with electrics fitted would check it out for towing.
The caravan had been stood over winter so attached the caravan
to
the megane and the indicators on the offside were not working,
thinking as the caravan was stood all winter it would be that,
2
hours later after checking the caravan out I started checking
out
the car system.

The electrics were all genuine Renault parts but found that
the
nearside had been completed and the offside had missing wiring
connections.

Contacted the previous owner who told me that he had spent a
fortune having it all done by a Renault dealer as he didn't
trust
either doing it himself or letting a independent do it, he had
fallen ill and had never towed his van.

I wired in the missing parts and all worked, I recon looking
at
the way it was done the mechanic had done one side partially
started on the other and got called away.

Just shows though its not always the caravans fault!!!



A few years ago a relative bought a BMW 3 series and had the
towbar 'professionally' fitted. They were staying at a site
not
far from here and rang to say that the fridge had melted
during
their 120mile or so journey. I went to the site and had a
look.
There was the 12S cable neatly run in at the back, across the
side of the boot, down the side and....... Not connected. They
needed the fridge so I ran a wire to make it work. When they
got
back they had a go at the garage (BMW dealer) but they were
effectively to to prove their fault or go away.


Mrwal of the story --- use a specialist towbar fitter.
In my experience most car dealers have'nt a clue about towbars
and wiring.
To be fair my local Toyota dealer doesn't attempt to fit them
but farms the work out to a specialist.




When my last Co car arrived - ordered with a towbar - it wouldn't
work, and this fitted by the supplying Vauxhall dealer. It took
three Vauxhall garages for them to find out what was wrong -
connected to the wrong place on the magic electrickery that
modern vehicles use. Once corrected - pull out the plug and shift
it and the module somewhere else - and it worked perfectly.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com


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Old April 28th 11, 08:28 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
TTT
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Default experience never just presume its the caravan at fault

In my experience most car dealers have'nt a clue about towbars and
wiring.
To be fair my local Toyota dealer doesn't attempt to fit them but farms
the work out to a specialist.

When I bought my (used) toyota landcruiser, the salesman knew that I wanted
to tow a caravan, and the deal included fitting the towbar. Not only did he
say you'll need all the pins connecting, but he said "I'll get the parts
counter to make you up a number plate for the caravan" - no extra charge for
the number plate either. I was very impressed. And it all worked!


 



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