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Caravan site or anti spam site?



 
 
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Old January 5th 04, 04:22 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
jo
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Default Caravan site or anti spam site?


Is this a site for airing our views on caravaning / or trying to block
spammers?

The amount of caravan information these days makes me wonder



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Old January 5th 04, 05:26 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Paul - xxx
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Default Caravan site or anti spam site?

jo posted ...

Is this a site for airing our views on caravaning / or trying to block
spammers?

The amount of caravan information these days makes me wonder


They're not really spammers or trolls, just dickheads who'll be back to
school soon ..

The following may help a bit ..

Configuring Outlook Express 6 to use NewsProxy / NFilter ...

Credit goes to the following sites from where I gathered, and have used a
lot of information ..
http://web.archive.org/web/200210130...r.org/faq.html
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/davidgb/x_setup11.html
http://troll-busters.0catch.com/alt/download.html from where it may be
downloaded ..

2.1 How do I install nfilter?
Newer versions of nfilter (now called NewsProxy) are self-installing using
InstallShield. Just download the installation file from the web page and run
the application. It will take care of the rest of the process for you.

After installation, you need to do some configuration of nfilter.

For most purposes, the only information you need to change in the
configuration file is the "NewsServer" entry. Set this to the name of the
news server you normally read news from.

See 2.5 for more information on configuring.

2.2 How do I run it?
If you selected the defaults while installing nfilter, then a short cut has
automatically been created from your start menu. Click "start", select
"programs", then "Newsproxy" and then click the newsproxy icon. Before you
use NewsProxy you should confired the name of your news server in the
configuration/network panel. The fields are as follows:

server - The news server to connect to (eg. news.foo.com)

port - This optional field specifies what port to connect to on the remote
server. By default this is the nntp port (119).

listen port - This optional field specified which local port to listen to.
The default is nntp (119), but if you wish to run multiple proxies (eg. for
multiple news servers), you should set each one to listen to a different
local port.

I needed to do no more than the above for it to work ..

Setting up Outlook Express 6

Assuming you are using news.individual.net as your newsserver ..

Right click on news.individual.net, select 'properties', select 'Server'
tab, enter Server Name as 'localhost', instead of news.individual.net, but
keep 'log on' checked and the Account name and Password as they are for the
standard news server name.

Select 'Connection' tab, Add, 'Dial up to private network', General tab host
name needs to be '127.0.0.1', and check 'Dial another Connection First',
which is changed or kept to an existing Internet Account ..

I found no need to change any other OE settings ..

Use the above in conjunction with the FAQ's to configure NewsProxy at the
sites Bill has posted and all becomes clear ..

In Filters instead of using, for example,
* drop xref:*:*:*:*
I use
uk.rec.caravanning drop xref:*:*:*:*
uk.rec.caravanning drop newsgroups:*,*,*
which leaves all my other groups intact .. but kills the vast majority of
crossposts ... The same applies to any other scoring or rules you may wish
to add / use ...

A simple way to check it works is to remove the crossposters, or a couple of
them maybe, entries from your killfile, then right click uk.rec.caravanning,
select properties, select 'local file' tab then select 'reset' button ..
this resets the group so that you need to download all headers and bodies
again .. When you do reload them all the message count starts at maybe 6000
messages, but as the crosspost filters 'kick in' the count drops rapidly.
Let it run, then when it's all done, scroll back a way to see if any posts
have got through .. if so you've done summat wrong, but persevere, it is
worth it ..

It is a good feeling though to see that initial 6000+ count drop to 5000
then 4000 then to 3000 something posts ... Most satisfying ..

Hope it helps ..



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Old January 5th 04, 07:12 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Ben Franklin
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Default Caravan site or anti spam site?


"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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http://web.archive.org/web/200210130...r.org/faq.html
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/davidgb/x_setup11.html
http://troll-busters.0catch.com/alt/download.html from where it may be
downloaded ..


Paul, do you know of another server to download the Troll-buster file? The
above URL then links to a site which says File Not Found.

Ben Franklin


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Old January 5th 04, 09:10 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Paul - xxx
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Ben Franklin posted ...

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
...
http://web.archive.org/web/200210130...r.org/faq.html
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/davidgb/x_setup11.html
http://troll-busters.0catch.com/alt/download.html from where it may
be downloaded ..


Paul, do you know of another server to download the Troll-buster
file? The above URL then links to a site which says File Not Found.

Ben Franklin


http://web.archive.org/web/200202080...120/np-120.exe
from where it may be downloaded .. This is a self-extracting zip file, so
may need to be re-named to a .zip extension to work correctly in XP, NT, W2K
etc .. Ack. Ian D.


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Old January 5th 04, 09:35 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
I'm not Phil I'm a sock
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Default Caravan site or anti spam site?

Paul - xxx vomited Caravan site or anti spam site? onto my velour:

Ben Franklin posted ...

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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http://web.archive.org/web/200210130...r.org/faq.html
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/davidgb/x_setup11.html
http://troll-busters.0catch.com/alt/download.html from where it may
be downloaded ..


Paul, do you know of another server to download the Troll-buster
file? The above URL then links to a site which says File Not Found.

Ben Franklin


http://web.archive.org/web/200202080...120/np-120.exe
from where it may be downloaded .. This is a self-extracting zip file, so
may need to be re-named to a .zip extension to work correctly in XP, NT, W2K
etc .. Ack. Ian D.



And watch out for the viruses and spyware.


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Old January 5th 04, 10:52 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Ian D
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Default Caravan site or anti spam site?

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:26:53 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
wrote:


I use
uk.rec.caravanning drop xref:*:*:*:*
uk.rec.caravanning drop newsgroups:*,*,*


Just curious, but is there any particular reason you filter for
cross-posts on both the newsgroups: and xref: headers?
I can understand the reasons why you might choose one rather than the
other, but why both at the same time?

Cheers
Ian D

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Old January 6th 04, 08:18 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Jim Burt
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Ian

I did wonder that myself when I installed and implemented the NFilter
yesterday. I set-up only the parameter
uk.rec.caravanning drop xref:*:*:*:* -- note : (colon) not .
(stop)

I got down from 5,388 to 2,190 posts on a full reset by setting up this
NFilter to eliminate all posting that were cross-posted to more than 3
newsgroups.
I did this despite to clearing all my killfile entries. Apart from the odd
troll who has only posted to URC I am happy with the result - URC has become
again (for me) as useful source of information.

I hope that helps.

It does take a bit of perseverance to get it working with XP and OE6, but it
is worth it.

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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:26:53 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
wrote:


I use
uk.rec.caravanning drop xref:*:*:*:*
uk.rec.caravanning drop newsgroups:*,*,*


Just curious, but is there any particular reason you filter for
cross-posts on both the newsgroups: and xref: headers?
I can understand the reasons why you might choose one rather than the
other, but why both at the same time?

Cheers
Ian D



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Old January 6th 04, 09:41 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Ian D
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:18:57 -0000, "Jim Burt"
wrote:

Ian

I did wonder that myself when I installed and implemented the NFilter
yesterday. I set-up only the parameter
uk.rec.caravanning drop xref:*:*:*:* -- note : (colon) not .
(stop)


I don't use the xref header for that sort of cross-post management
generally, although it does work, as you say.
The xref is added by your server and only shows those newsroups which
the server carries though, so if someone posts a message to a number
of groups, including the one you're filtering, but most of those
groups are not carried, the filter will not catch them.
I prefer the newsgroup: header, as that reflects the groups to which
the post was addressed, even if some of those addresses are nonsense.
I prefer to filter on what the poster intends, rather than what the
server allows.

It does take a bit of perseverance to get it working with XP and OE6, but it
is worth it.


Not for me.
I hate XP and don't use OE. :-)

Cheers
Ian D
 



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