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X-Trail tow bars



 
 
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Old January 19th 04, 07:09 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
John
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I am thinking of getting a X-Trail as a tow car. The car/van combination is
within the 85% but I am uncertain on tow bars. I recall seeing that the
Nissan tow ball is too close to the bumper for many people. As we will be
using an AKS 2004 stabiliser this could be a problem even if the original
ball is replaceable.
The alternative is non Nissan tow bar but are there problems in the
electrics with one of these? The electric fitting for one of our tow bars
resulted in the light warning indicators not working and other problems
(Carlton) and I don't what that again!
Could any one using an X-Trail offer some advice from their experience?


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Old January 19th 04, 07:37 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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"John" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of getting a X-Trail as a tow car. The car/van combination

is
within the 85% but I am uncertain on tow bars. I recall seeing that the
Nissan tow ball is too close to the bumper for many people. As we will be
using an AKS 2004 stabiliser this could be a problem even if the original
ball is replaceable.
The alternative is non Nissan tow bar but are there problems in the
electrics with one of these? The electric fitting for one of our tow bars
resulted in the light warning indicators not working and other problems
(Carlton) and I don't what that again!
Could any one using an X-Trail offer some advice from their experience?



Is it the 2 bolt flange towball, is so a spacer can be used, as on my car,
not a Nissan.

I'm about to get a Nissan Tino and what I found out is the electric kit from
Nissan for the N socket sounds to be complete and plug in. (The S socket
as to be connected up piece by piece and connected to
battery/alternater/earth by the fitter.) So I wonder if you obtain the
Nissan single electric kit only you will get all you need and have no repeat
of your previous problems. Also use a non Nissan towbar.

Nissan dealer wants 450 to do my car. 2 local towbar firms, who do many of
the local main dealers work, not known if they do the Nissan work, have
quoted me 145 and 175 plus vat respectively. Both claim to have done this
car several times before and the Nissan service dept at 3 nearest Nissan
dealers have never done any.
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David

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Old January 19th 04, 07:43 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default X-Trail tow bars


"John" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of getting a X-Trail as a tow car. The car/van combination

is
within the 85% but I am uncertain on tow bars. I recall seeing that the
Nissan tow ball is too close to the bumper for many people. As we will be
using an AKS 2004 stabiliser this could be a problem even if the original
ball is replaceable.
The alternative is non Nissan tow bar but are there problems in the
electrics with one of these? The electric fitting for one of our tow bars
resulted in the light warning indicators not working and other problems
(Carlton) and I don't what that again!
Could any one using an X-Trail offer some advice from their experience?



Is it the 2 bolt flange towball, is so a spacer can be used, as on my car,
not a Nissan.

I'm about to get a Nissan Tino and what I found out is the electric kit from
Nissan for the N socket sounds to be complete and plug in. (The S socket
as to be connected up piece by piece and connected to
battery/alternater/earth by the fitter.) So I wonder if you obtain the
Nissan single electric kit only you will get all you need and have no repeat
of your previous problems. Also use a non Nissan towbar.

Nissan dealer wants 450 to do my car. 2 local towbar firms, who do many of
the local main dealers work, not known if they do the Nissan work, both have
quoted me 145 and 175 plus vat. Towsure and Witter, respectively with
twin electrics. Both claim to have done this
car several times before and learnt how to do this car now, and the Nissan
service dept at 3 nearest Nissan
dealers have never done any.
--
Regards,
David

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Old January 19th 04, 07:46 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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"David" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of getting a X-Trail as a tow car. The car/van combination

is
within the 85% but I am uncertain on tow bars. I recall seeing that the
Nissan tow ball is too close to the bumper for many people. As we will

be
using an AKS 2004 stabiliser this could be a problem even if the

original
ball is replaceable.
The alternative is non Nissan tow bar but are there problems in the
electrics with one of these? The electric fitting for one of our tow

bars
resulted in the light warning indicators not working and other problems
(Carlton) and I don't what that again!
Could any one using an X-Trail offer some advice from their experience?



Is it the 2 bolt flange towball, is so a spacer can be used, as on my car,
not a Nissan.

I'm about to get a Nissan Tino and what I found out is the electric kit

from
Nissan for the N socket sounds to be complete and plug in. (The S

socket
as to be connected up piece by piece and connected to
battery/alternater/earth by the fitter.) So I wonder if you obtain the
Nissan single electric kit only you will get all you need and have no

repeat
of your previous problems. Also use a non Nissan towbar.

Nissan dealer wants 450 to do my car. 2 local towbar firms, who do many

of
the local main dealers work, not known if they do the Nissan work, both

have
quoted me 145 and 175 plus vat. Towsure and Witter, respectively with
twin electrics. Both claim to have done this
car several times before and learnt how to do this car now, and the Nissan
service dept at 3 nearest Nissan
dealers have never done any.
--
Regards,
David

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Old January 19th 04, 08:05 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default X-Trail tow bars

Thanks, I don't know if they do a bolt on one. The information is not very
good!


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Old January 19th 04, 09:33 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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"John" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of getting a X-Trail as a tow car. The car/van combination

is
within the 85% but I am uncertain on tow bars. I recall seeing that the
Nissan tow ball is too close to the bumper for many people. As we will be
using an AKS 2004 stabiliser this could be a problem even if the original
ball is replaceable.
The alternative is non Nissan tow bar but are there problems in the
electrics with one of these? The electric fitting for one of our tow bars
resulted in the light warning indicators not working and other problems
(Carlton) and I don't what that again!
Could any one using an X-Trail offer some advice from their experience?



I was advised by the Nissan dealer when I bought my X-Trail, NOT to put on a
Nissan tow-bar as it was too expensive. I had a local company fit a Witter
model which has the usual space between it and the bumper. They also told
me they fitted "something" in the electrical system of the car to prevent
any problems. I don't recall whether this "something" came with the tow-bar
or not. Perhaps others on this NG will know, or I could try and find out if
you need it.
I have had no problems at all - and it cost about 180 fitted.
Bob


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Old January 19th 04, 11:35 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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"John" wrote in message
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....... The information is not very
good!


Yes that's it, on top of not having seen one because they are too expensive
at a Main dealer, they can't find pictures of the parts on thier computer
parts lists or computer manuals. All they found were the part numbers, in
my case of the Tino a normal flange type, a normal fixed swan neck , a
detachable and single electric kit and a double kit.
From these part numbers they were able to quote me the costs of these
materials only, which were higher than the prices of fully fitted at the
towbar specialists previously quoted.
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Regards,
David

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Old January 19th 04, 02:46 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
John
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Default X-Trail tow bars

Thanks, I'm glad I am not the only one finding the information you can get
is very poor even if the cars are not!

It looks though it will be best to find and talk to a independant tow bar
fitter!

"David" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
...

...... The information is not very
good!


Yes that's it, on top of not having seen one because they are too

expensive
at a Main dealer, they can't find pictures of the parts on thier computer
parts lists or computer manuals. All they found were the part numbers, in
my case of the Tino a normal flange type, a normal fixed swan neck , a
detachable and single electric kit and a double kit.
From these part numbers they were able to quote me the costs of these
materials only, which were higher than the prices of fully fitted at the
towbar specialists previously quoted.
--
Regards,
David

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Old January 21st 04, 07:38 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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John

I had a Brink detachable fitted to my X-Trail six months ago at a cost of
290 via a local (Oxfordshire) towball fitter, this is used with an AKS 2004
stabiliser on an Avondale Dart 515-4 with no issues at all.

The electrics are (looking from the rear) fitted onto the L/H side of the
tow-ball mount onto the rear 'skirt', when the tow-ball is detached all you
see are the two electrics sockets and the Brink mount. The only extra thing
that I have done is fit a break-away bracket to the break-away hole on the
R/H side of the Brink as the hole is too small to allow the cable to be
looped-through.

Regards

Paul

"John" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of getting a X-Trail as a tow car. The car/van combination

is
within the 85% but I am uncertain on tow bars. I recall seeing that the
Nissan tow ball is too close to the bumper for many people. As we will be
using an AKS 2004 stabiliser this could be a problem even if the original
ball is replaceable.
The alternative is non Nissan tow bar but are there problems in the
electrics with one of these? The electric fitting for one of our tow bars
resulted in the light warning indicators not working and other problems
(Carlton) and I don't what that again!
Could any one using an X-Trail offer some advice from their experience?




 



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