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Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....



 
 
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Old August 5th 04, 06:35 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Steve
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....

Help......

Dear all.
We've ordered a Kia Sorento (new) after much confusion and frustration, and
were generally #very# impressed, but there seems to be an issue...

we ordered car with reversing sensors (so hence a detachable ball) and
specified that we have an Alko hitch/stabiliser. Kia have said that they
cannot supply a tow bar to the car which is both detachable and suitable for
use with an Alko - or they can but won't guarantee that the hitch will not
foul the rear of the car due to the length of the bar itself.

Does anybody have any thoughts, or better still, a Sorento with a detachable
that tows using an Alko.

Please please please please (etc) help - we're supposed to collect the car
on Monday and go to France on Weds with an Alko hitched van......

Thanks all

Steve





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Old August 6th 04, 10:02 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Steve Bowyer
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....

Just an update really....

Thanks all for the comments - I've spoken to Andy at Brink technical now,
who assures me that there is no problem with their detachable bar for the
Sorento (part Nr.411600), and that the clearance between ball and bumper is
103mm. They have the bar in stock, so all is go go go !
Next spoke to my dealer who (in fairness to them) has now gone back to their
bar fitters to discuss their obvious lack of knowledge about the products
and vehicles.
This does however beg another question.....should I let them fit the bar if
they don't think it can be done ? I've discussed another option with the
dealer and that is to supply the car to me directly without the bar, and I
will get it fitted locally by my "usual" tow bar chappie (who also confirms
there's no problem), and the dealer "refund" me the cost of fitting the bar
locally.
Another thought is that since I "negotiated" the cost of the bar in the
total deal for the car, the dealer under-priced the bar...they've found out
it's gonna be more than they'd allowed for and rather than lose the money by
fitting, have posed a problem to try to get me to revert to a fixed flange
ball ? Is that me being paranoid now ?

Anyway...top marks to Andy at Brink - thanks if you ever read this - and
zero marks for the dealer and their fitters !

Thanks all again

Steve

"SkodaMan" wrote ....
There should be no problem with the Alko and a detachable bar. I went into
this issue in some depth before taking delivery of the Skoda and was

assured
by both Witter and Brink that there was sufficient clearance. The
manufactures take into account that many caravanners now use Alko
hitch/stabilisers and allow for this in the design. If you have a fixed

bar
you need the 'longer' tow ball or fit a spacer to get the clearance
necessary.

As Kev pointed out, most dealers 'sub contract' out the towbar fitting as

it
is a specialism which many prefer to avoid. As all bars have to meet
European standards now they will not invalidate your warranty apparently.

Hope you sort it in time.

Reg.




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Old August 6th 04, 10:02 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Steve Bowyer
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....

Just an update really....

Thanks all for the comments - I've spoken to Andy at Brink technical now,
who assures me that there is no problem with their detachable bar for the
Sorento (part Nr.411600), and that the clearance between ball and bumper is
103mm. They have the bar in stock, so all is go go go !
Next spoke to my dealer who (in fairness to them) has now gone back to their
bar fitters to discuss their obvious lack of knowledge about the products
and vehicles.
This does however beg another question.....should I let them fit the bar if
they don't think it can be done ? I've discussed another option with the
dealer and that is to supply the car to me directly without the bar, and I
will get it fitted locally by my "usual" tow bar chappie (who also confirms
there's no problem), and the dealer "refund" me the cost of fitting the bar
locally.
Another thought is that since I "negotiated" the cost of the bar in the
total deal for the car, the dealer under-priced the bar...they've found out
it's gonna be more than they'd allowed for and rather than lose the money by
fitting, have posed a problem to try to get me to revert to a fixed flange
ball ? Is that me being paranoid now ?

Anyway...top marks to Andy at Brink - thanks if you ever read this - and
zero marks for the dealer and their fitters !

Thanks all again

Steve

"SkodaMan" wrote ....
There should be no problem with the Alko and a detachable bar. I went into
this issue in some depth before taking delivery of the Skoda and was

assured
by both Witter and Brink that there was sufficient clearance. The
manufactures take into account that many caravanners now use Alko
hitch/stabilisers and allow for this in the design. If you have a fixed

bar
you need the 'longer' tow ball or fit a spacer to get the clearance
necessary.

As Kev pointed out, most dealers 'sub contract' out the towbar fitting as

it
is a specialism which many prefer to avoid. As all bars have to meet
European standards now they will not invalidate your warranty apparently.

Hope you sort it in time.

Reg.




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Old August 6th 04, 10:24 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
SkodaMan
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....

Steve,

I would be inclined to forget the dealer and have the bar fitted by a
specialist. Having had the detachable fitted to my Skoda I would not revert
to a fixed bar now unless there was no other choice. I'm sure you will be
able to sort out something with the dealer.

Reg


"Steve Bowyer" wrote in message
...
Just an update really....

Thanks all for the comments - I've spoken to Andy at Brink technical now,
who assures me that there is no problem with their detachable bar for the
Sorento (part Nr.411600), and that the clearance between ball and bumper

is
103mm. They have the bar in stock, so all is go go go !
Next spoke to my dealer who (in fairness to them) has now gone back to

their
bar fitters to discuss their obvious lack of knowledge about the products
and vehicles.
This does however beg another question.....should I let them fit the bar

if
they don't think it can be done ? I've discussed another option with the
dealer and that is to supply the car to me directly without the bar, and I
will get it fitted locally by my "usual" tow bar chappie (who also

confirms
there's no problem), and the dealer "refund" me the cost of fitting the

bar
locally.
Another thought is that since I "negotiated" the cost of the bar in the
total deal for the car, the dealer under-priced the bar...they've found

out
it's gonna be more than they'd allowed for and rather than lose the money

by
fitting, have posed a problem to try to get me to revert to a fixed flange
ball ? Is that me being paranoid now ?

Anyway...top marks to Andy at Brink - thanks if you ever read this - and
zero marks for the dealer and their fitters !

Thanks all again

Steve

"SkodaMan" wrote ....
There should be no problem with the Alko and a detachable bar. I went

into
this issue in some depth before taking delivery of the Skoda and was

assured
by both Witter and Brink that there was sufficient clearance. The
manufactures take into account that many caravanners now use Alko
hitch/stabilisers and allow for this in the design. If you have a fixed

bar
you need the 'longer' tow ball or fit a spacer to get the clearance
necessary.

As Kev pointed out, most dealers 'sub contract' out the towbar fitting

as
it
is a specialism which many prefer to avoid. As all bars have to meet
European standards now they will not invalidate your warranty

apparently.

Hope you sort it in time.

Reg.






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Old August 6th 04, 10:24 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
SkodaMan
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Posts: 19
Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....

Steve,

I would be inclined to forget the dealer and have the bar fitted by a
specialist. Having had the detachable fitted to my Skoda I would not revert
to a fixed bar now unless there was no other choice. I'm sure you will be
able to sort out something with the dealer.

Reg


"Steve Bowyer" wrote in message
...
Just an update really....

Thanks all for the comments - I've spoken to Andy at Brink technical now,
who assures me that there is no problem with their detachable bar for the
Sorento (part Nr.411600), and that the clearance between ball and bumper

is
103mm. They have the bar in stock, so all is go go go !
Next spoke to my dealer who (in fairness to them) has now gone back to

their
bar fitters to discuss their obvious lack of knowledge about the products
and vehicles.
This does however beg another question.....should I let them fit the bar

if
they don't think it can be done ? I've discussed another option with the
dealer and that is to supply the car to me directly without the bar, and I
will get it fitted locally by my "usual" tow bar chappie (who also

confirms
there's no problem), and the dealer "refund" me the cost of fitting the

bar
locally.
Another thought is that since I "negotiated" the cost of the bar in the
total deal for the car, the dealer under-priced the bar...they've found

out
it's gonna be more than they'd allowed for and rather than lose the money

by
fitting, have posed a problem to try to get me to revert to a fixed flange
ball ? Is that me being paranoid now ?

Anyway...top marks to Andy at Brink - thanks if you ever read this - and
zero marks for the dealer and their fitters !

Thanks all again

Steve

"SkodaMan" wrote ....
There should be no problem with the Alko and a detachable bar. I went

into
this issue in some depth before taking delivery of the Skoda and was

assured
by both Witter and Brink that there was sufficient clearance. The
manufactures take into account that many caravanners now use Alko
hitch/stabilisers and allow for this in the design. If you have a fixed

bar
you need the 'longer' tow ball or fit a spacer to get the clearance
necessary.

As Kev pointed out, most dealers 'sub contract' out the towbar fitting

as
it
is a specialism which many prefer to avoid. As all bars have to meet
European standards now they will not invalidate your warranty

apparently.

Hope you sort it in time.

Reg.






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Old August 9th 04, 03:35 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Roy
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....


"Tmax" wrote in message
...

We buy new, generally, every two years - so I've plenty of experience of

new
vehicles.....and I've yet to find a new car that recommends towing until

at
least 1,000 miles has been covered.

To tow through France on a brand new engine seems a bit stupid to me - but
each to his own...

Beat me to it - could it also invalidate warranty ?

Roy
www.pikey.ne1.net


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Old August 9th 04, 03:35 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Roy
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Posts: 85
Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....


"Tmax" wrote in message
...

We buy new, generally, every two years - so I've plenty of experience of

new
vehicles.....and I've yet to find a new car that recommends towing until

at
least 1,000 miles has been covered.

To tow through France on a brand new engine seems a bit stupid to me - but
each to his own...

Beat me to it - could it also invalidate warranty ?

Roy
www.pikey.ne1.net


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Old August 9th 04, 04:45 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
David
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....




and I've yet to find a new car that recommends towing until
at
least 1,000 miles has been covered.


My Nissan Tino diesel was 500 miles.
--
Regards,
David

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Old August 9th 04, 04:45 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
David
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....




and I've yet to find a new car that recommends towing until
at
least 1,000 miles has been covered.


My Nissan Tino diesel was 500 miles.
--
Regards,
David

Please reply to News Group.


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Old August 13th 04, 03:00 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
MikeS
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Default Sorento Tow Bar Gloom....


"Roy" wrote in message
...

"Tmax" wrote in message
...

We buy new, generally, every two years - so I've plenty of experience of

new
vehicles.....and I've yet to find a new car that recommends towing until

at
least 1,000 miles has been covered.

To tow through France on a brand new engine seems a bit stupid to me -

but
each to his own...

Beat me to it - could it also invalidate warranty ?

Roy
www.pikey.ne1.net

In the old day of yore engines had to be run in not so nowadays. But it is

good practice not to over rev the engine by holding onto a gear for to long
, or to let it labour in to high a gear,both stress the engine. In the Good
old days! you had to run an engine in carefully because the tolerances of
manufacture where not good and if an engine was tight it could seize so you
ran it in at town speeds. You when ran it in at higher speeds( out of town
no motorway then) to smooth of the tight spots that occurred at the higher
speeds all this was temperature related. If you got to Brighton and back
without boiling it was something to talk about in the pub that night, Leith
hill was notorious for breakdowns.
MikeS


 



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