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Trailer lighting



 
 
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Old August 6th 04, 10:15 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Hairy Arse
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Default Trailer lighting

Building a motorcycle trailer, usual design, looks like a jesus cross, axle
placed towards the rear for stability when reversing, C chanel in the middle
for the bike to sit in,

At the very back the trailer is about 7 inched wide, the wheels are 1 meter
appart, but they are about 3/4 of a meter forwards of the rear of the
trailer,

i'll put a loading ramp that folds upright when towing, so i'll put a square
number plate on the back/bottom of that,
so i'll now need to illuminate that number plate.

The motorhomes brake, tail and indicators can easily be seen around the
trailer, i have high level repeater indicators and tail lights anyway (3
meters up the back of the van) but i'd like to illuminate the trailer
anyway.

Normal way would be to either use an ugily lighting board, or add a bar
accross the back and stick 2 light units on each side.. making the rear
about a meter wide.. when it dosent need to be.

What i wanted to do was use a motor cycles rear light unit, tail, brake and
number plate lights all in one nice package, mount it on the loading ramp
above the number plate, and that'd take care of my rear lighting in one nice
neat package,

The reflective triangles are going on the backs of the mudguards, and i was
gonna put the indicators on there too, don't think i need indicators anyway,
but i may as well put em on.. so one one can miss 3 rear indicators (normal
van one, high level one and one on the trailer)

Can i do what i propose, or is there some law or something that says a
trailer pulled behind a 4 wheeled vehicle must have 2 light units each side,
even if the rear is only 7 inched accross??


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Old August 9th 04, 10:57 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Tony Maris
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Default Trailer lighting

I would need to check the Road Vehicles (lighting) Regulations 1989, for a
definitive answer, however, I am reasonably confident that, as an overhang
is allowed, you should be okay putting triangles on the mudguards.

Contrary to some peoples opinion, traffic police are not the Gestapo!
Generally, if it looks legal, you'll be okay. In any event, there is a
get-out in the regs which basically amounts to "if the design of the trailer
is such, that it is not possible to comply fully with the regs, then its
okay to stick them (lights, triangles) somewhere else!

Regards

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Tony M
Towbars & Trailers
Chesterfield
Specialists in Towing Equipment
NTTA Council Member
http://www.towitall.co.uk
QSA accredited for Towbars and Trailers



"Hairy Arse" wrote in message
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"Tony Maris" wrote in message
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The lights should be within 400 mm of the outside edge of the trailer.

In
your case, the hubcaps....... We do 3', 4', 4'6", 5'
boards...................
you will also need triangles, front reflectors, and, if its over 1.3 mt
overall, a foglight.....

Additionally, it is illegal without a secondary coupling. This can

simply
be chain or a heavy wire strop, but it's breaking strain needs to be

twice
the MGW of the trailer.

Hope this helps.


Yup deffo helps,

Triangles already got, was gonna put em on the mud guards, but a lighting
board will sort all that.. then again... do the triangles need to be at

the
very rear of the trailer?
the back of the trailer to the rear of the mud guards is about a foot and

a
half, would it be alowed to put the triangles on the backs of the

mudguards
in this case?

Doing it that way i could cut a few inches off the ends of the lighting
board to make it fit on better, not to mention make it a lot easier to
store, the 1 meter width is including the wheels, so no fog lamp needed it
seems, tho i may put one on the middle of the loading ramp anyway, better
safe than sorry.

Secondary coupeling something i'm working on, going to be a length of

chain
tho, got some very heavy duty motorcycle lock chain somewhere, bolt

cropper
proof and all that, something like 10mm thick links,

going to use some of that, There's no way i want to risk loosing the

trailer
and the bike due to the hitch failing, breaking straing of the bike chain

is
something like 10 tons i think, plenty for a bike weighing 195 kilo's and
trailer prolly 30 kilo's.




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Old August 9th 04, 10:57 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Tony Maris
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Posts: 161
Default Trailer lighting

I would need to check the Road Vehicles (lighting) Regulations 1989, for a
definitive answer, however, I am reasonably confident that, as an overhang
is allowed, you should be okay putting triangles on the mudguards.

Contrary to some peoples opinion, traffic police are not the Gestapo!
Generally, if it looks legal, you'll be okay. In any event, there is a
get-out in the regs which basically amounts to "if the design of the trailer
is such, that it is not possible to comply fully with the regs, then its
okay to stick them (lights, triangles) somewhere else!

Regards

--
Tony M
Towbars & Trailers
Chesterfield
Specialists in Towing Equipment
NTTA Council Member
http://www.towitall.co.uk
QSA accredited for Towbars and Trailers



"Hairy Arse" wrote in message
...

"Tony Maris" wrote in message
...
The lights should be within 400 mm of the outside edge of the trailer.

In
your case, the hubcaps....... We do 3', 4', 4'6", 5'
boards...................
you will also need triangles, front reflectors, and, if its over 1.3 mt
overall, a foglight.....

Additionally, it is illegal without a secondary coupling. This can

simply
be chain or a heavy wire strop, but it's breaking strain needs to be

twice
the MGW of the trailer.

Hope this helps.


Yup deffo helps,

Triangles already got, was gonna put em on the mud guards, but a lighting
board will sort all that.. then again... do the triangles need to be at

the
very rear of the trailer?
the back of the trailer to the rear of the mud guards is about a foot and

a
half, would it be alowed to put the triangles on the backs of the

mudguards
in this case?

Doing it that way i could cut a few inches off the ends of the lighting
board to make it fit on better, not to mention make it a lot easier to
store, the 1 meter width is including the wheels, so no fog lamp needed it
seems, tho i may put one on the middle of the loading ramp anyway, better
safe than sorry.

Secondary coupeling something i'm working on, going to be a length of

chain
tho, got some very heavy duty motorcycle lock chain somewhere, bolt

cropper
proof and all that, something like 10mm thick links,

going to use some of that, There's no way i want to risk loosing the

trailer
and the bike due to the hitch failing, breaking straing of the bike chain

is
something like 10 tons i think, plenty for a bike weighing 195 kilo's and
trailer prolly 30 kilo's.




 



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