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HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK



 
 
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Old December 3rd 04, 05:35 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK

I have an old Elvima gas fire which refuses to light. Can anyone give
an explanation of how these fires work, the components involved,
typical problems & resolutions, spare parts.
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Old December 3rd 04, 09:38 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK


"Harry" wrote in message
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I have an old Elvima gas fire which refuses to light. Can anyone give
an explanation of how these fires work, the components involved,
typical problems & resolutions, spare parts.


Don't know the make but the usual fault is the thermocouple has packed in.
Caravan stores- big outfits like Harringtons Cheshire, sell a universal kit
for about £7.
If you can get the pilot to light, the flame bears against a probe and the
tiny electrical current produced keeps the gas valve open. If the pilot
won't light look for the fault there.
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Old December 3rd 04, 09:38 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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"Harry" wrote in message
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I have an old Elvima gas fire which refuses to light. Can anyone give
an explanation of how these fires work, the components involved,
typical problems & resolutions, spare parts.


Don't know the make but the usual fault is the thermocouple has packed in.
Caravan stores- big outfits like Harringtons Cheshire, sell a universal kit
for about £7.
If you can get the pilot to light, the flame bears against a probe and the
tiny electrical current produced keeps the gas valve open. If the pilot
won't light look for the fault there.
DavekK.



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Old December 4th 04, 02:23 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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"davek" wrote in message ...
"Harry" wrote in message
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I have an old Elvima gas fire which refuses to light. Can anyone give
an explanation of how these fires work, the components involved,
typical problems & resolutions, spare parts.


Don't know the make but the usual fault is the thermocouple has packed in.
Caravan stores- big outfits like Harringtons Cheshire, sell a universal kit
for about £7.
If you can get the pilot to light, the flame bears against a probe and the
tiny electrical current produced keeps the gas valve open. If the pilot
won't light look for the fault there.
DavekK.



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Thanks for that. Does anyone also know how the igniter works, on my
fire it has the hole where the gas comes out, and two components
either side of this, one of these as you say is the thermocouple -
what´s the other one?. ours has been left standing for a long time so
all of these components are pretty corroded - can these just be
cleaned up.
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Old December 4th 04, 02:23 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK

"davek" wrote in message ...
"Harry" wrote in message
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I have an old Elvima gas fire which refuses to light. Can anyone give
an explanation of how these fires work, the components involved,
typical problems & resolutions, spare parts.


Don't know the make but the usual fault is the thermocouple has packed in.
Caravan stores- big outfits like Harringtons Cheshire, sell a universal kit
for about £7.
If you can get the pilot to light, the flame bears against a probe and the
tiny electrical current produced keeps the gas valve open. If the pilot
won't light look for the fault there.
DavekK.



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Thanks for that. Does anyone also know how the igniter works, on my
fire it has the hole where the gas comes out, and two components
either side of this, one of these as you say is the thermocouple -
what´s the other one?. ours has been left standing for a long time so
all of these components are pretty corroded - can these just be
cleaned up.
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Old December 4th 04, 03:27 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK

.. Does anyone also know how the igniter works, on my
fire it has the hole where the gas comes out, and two components
either side of this, one of these as you say is the thermocouple -
what´s the other one?. ours has been left standing for a long time so
all of these components are pretty corroded - can these just be
cleaned up.


When you say, 'a hole where the gas comes out', I guess you mean the jet.
That can be unscrewed and cleaned- don't push a needle through - it will
open it up. Try to blow, or suck any muck out.
If it has piezo crystal spark ignition- there will be a spring loaded
button which you press repeatedly whilst holding the gas control knob open-
against spring pressure. Ensure that there is a spark at each click of the
button and that the tip of the themocouple is clean and in the flame (if
there is one).
(You have checked there is a good gas supply to the jet?)
DaveK.



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Old December 4th 04, 03:27 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK

.. Does anyone also know how the igniter works, on my
fire it has the hole where the gas comes out, and two components
either side of this, one of these as you say is the thermocouple -
what´s the other one?. ours has been left standing for a long time so
all of these components are pretty corroded - can these just be
cleaned up.


When you say, 'a hole where the gas comes out', I guess you mean the jet.
That can be unscrewed and cleaned- don't push a needle through - it will
open it up. Try to blow, or suck any muck out.
If it has piezo crystal spark ignition- there will be a spring loaded
button which you press repeatedly whilst holding the gas control knob open-
against spring pressure. Ensure that there is a spark at each click of the
button and that the tip of the themocouple is clean and in the flame (if
there is one).
(You have checked there is a good gas supply to the jet?)
DaveK.



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Old December 5th 04, 01:57 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK

"davek" wrote in message ...
. Does anyone also know how the igniter works, on my
fire it has the hole where the gas comes out, and two components
either side of this, one of these as you say is the thermocouple -
what´s the other one?. ours has been left standing for a long time so
all of these components are pretty corroded - can these just be
cleaned up.


When you say, 'a hole where the gas comes out', I guess you mean the jet.
That can be unscrewed and cleaned- don't push a needle through - it will
open it up. Try to blow, or suck any muck out.
If it has piezo crystal spark ignition- there will be a spring loaded
button which you press repeatedly whilst holding the gas control knob open-
against spring pressure. Ensure that there is a spark at each click of the
button and that the tip of the themocouple is clean and in the flame (if
there is one).
(You have checked there is a good gas supply to the jet?)
DaveK.



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I think it has a piezo crystal spark ignition, it has a rotary switch
on top which u press in and turn it to the spark symbol, it produces a
good spark. it goes out when you release the switch, I will try and
clean the thermocouple again. thanks for your help.
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Old December 5th 04, 01:57 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Harry
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Default HOW DO OLD 3 BAR GAS FIRES WORK

"davek" wrote in message ...
. Does anyone also know how the igniter works, on my
fire it has the hole where the gas comes out, and two components
either side of this, one of these as you say is the thermocouple -
what´s the other one?. ours has been left standing for a long time so
all of these components are pretty corroded - can these just be
cleaned up.


When you say, 'a hole where the gas comes out', I guess you mean the jet.
That can be unscrewed and cleaned- don't push a needle through - it will
open it up. Try to blow, or suck any muck out.
If it has piezo crystal spark ignition- there will be a spring loaded
button which you press repeatedly whilst holding the gas control knob open-
against spring pressure. Ensure that there is a spark at each click of the
button and that the tip of the themocouple is clean and in the flame (if
there is one).
(You have checked there is a good gas supply to the jet?)
DaveK.



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I think it has a piezo crystal spark ignition, it has a rotary switch
on top which u press in and turn it to the spark symbol, it produces a
good spark. it goes out when you release the switch, I will try and
clean the thermocouple again. thanks for your help.
 



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