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Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.



 
 
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Old December 7th 04, 08:09 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
SandS
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.

Hi. I need to glue a block of wood to the inside rear wall on a
Motorhome to spread the load of some backbox/bike rack supports.
Is there anything I can purchase in a standard DIY store that
will do or does it have to be some special caravan/motorhome
product ? If it does have to be a specialist product any ideas
which is best/ most available ?

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets
with normal UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through
the fibreglass backwall)?

Thank you,
Steve


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Old December 7th 04, 08:27 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
DaveK
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.

Fiamma make cycle racks to be fitted the way you describe. The bolts go
right through the double skin. Your idea of spreading the load with a batten
on the inside is good. I'd also consider one on the outside or using pieces
of tubing as distance pieces inside the panel. There's lot of weight
levering on it when you have couple of bikes on the frame,-it needs the
maximum support it can get. I think the Fiamma also attaches to the
aluminium strip above the window.
DaveK.

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets with normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the fibreglass
backwall)?

Thank you,
Steve



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Old December 7th 04, 08:27 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.

Fiamma make cycle racks to be fitted the way you describe. The bolts go
right through the double skin. Your idea of spreading the load with a batten
on the inside is good. I'd also consider one on the outside or using pieces
of tubing as distance pieces inside the panel. There's lot of weight
levering on it when you have couple of bikes on the frame,-it needs the
maximum support it can get. I think the Fiamma also attaches to the
aluminium strip above the window.
DaveK.

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets with normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the fibreglass
backwall)?

Thank you,
Steve



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Old December 7th 04, 08:46 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.


Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets with
normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the fibreglass
backwall)?

I'd use the best caravan/marine sealant such as Sikkaflex. It must be the
type that doesn't dry out.
Any silicone sealant will stick very well but when subjected to the movement
of a road vehicle, the bond will separate on one surface.
DaveK


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Old December 7th 04, 08:46 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
DaveK
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.


Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets with
normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the fibreglass
backwall)?

I'd use the best caravan/marine sealant such as Sikkaflex. It must be the
type that doesn't dry out.
Any silicone sealant will stick very well but when subjected to the movement
of a road vehicle, the bond will separate on one surface.
DaveK


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Old December 7th 04, 09:09 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
SandS
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.


"davek" wrote in message
...

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external
brackets with normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the
fibreglass backwall)?

I'd use the best caravan/marine sealant such as Sikkaflex. It
must be the type that doesn't dry out.
Any silicone sealant will stick very well but when subjected to
the movement of a road vehicle, the bond will separate on one
surface.
DaveK


Thank you dave, I'll print this off and see if any local Caravan
dealers can sell me some.

I should have mentioned that the van back wall in only
single-skinned, and the bike rack is a 4-bike short version (so
lots of pull on the upper brackets which are the ones I want to
strengthen). The back wall of the van is flexing too much IMO.

I'm toying with constructing a metal tube frame from the chassis
underneath but I'd probably still need to attach this to the body
at some point high up the back wall to stop the frame from
"bouncing" too much and hitting the van. I want to keep the
weight down so am using 25mm square steel tubing. The weight is
an issue as its so far back from the rear axle I'm concered about
the axle loading (the air suspension keeps her level but does
nothing for the axle load of course!).

Thanks again for the recommendation,
Steve


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Old December 7th 04, 09:09 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
SandS
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.


"davek" wrote in message
...

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external
brackets with normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the
fibreglass backwall)?

I'd use the best caravan/marine sealant such as Sikkaflex. It
must be the type that doesn't dry out.
Any silicone sealant will stick very well but when subjected to
the movement of a road vehicle, the bond will separate on one
surface.
DaveK


Thank you dave, I'll print this off and see if any local Caravan
dealers can sell me some.

I should have mentioned that the van back wall in only
single-skinned, and the bike rack is a 4-bike short version (so
lots of pull on the upper brackets which are the ones I want to
strengthen). The back wall of the van is flexing too much IMO.

I'm toying with constructing a metal tube frame from the chassis
underneath but I'd probably still need to attach this to the body
at some point high up the back wall to stop the frame from
"bouncing" too much and hitting the van. I want to keep the
weight down so am using 25mm square steel tubing. The weight is
an issue as its so far back from the rear axle I'm concered about
the axle loading (the air suspension keeps her level but does
nothing for the axle load of course!).

Thanks again for the recommendation,
Steve


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Old December 7th 04, 09:51 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Gordon Austin
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Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.

Try "Gorilla Glue" obtainable from any good DIY Shed or woodworkers tool
shop. But follow the instructions carefully, paticularly about keeping it
off your skin, wear disposable gloves or you will need a grinder to get it
off!!!
"SandS" wrote in message
...
Hi. I need to glue a block of wood to the inside rear wall on a Motorhome
to spread the load of some backbox/bike rack supports. Is there anything I
can purchase in a standard DIY store that will do or does it have to be
some special caravan/motorhome product ? If it does have to be a
specialist product any ideas which is best/ most available ?

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets with normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the fibreglass
backwall)?

Thank you,
Steve



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Old December 7th 04, 09:51 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Gordon Austin
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Posts: 253
Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.

Try "Gorilla Glue" obtainable from any good DIY Shed or woodworkers tool
shop. But follow the instructions carefully, paticularly about keeping it
off your skin, wear disposable gloves or you will need a grinder to get it
off!!!
"SandS" wrote in message
...
Hi. I need to glue a block of wood to the inside rear wall on a Motorhome
to spread the load of some backbox/bike rack supports. Is there anything I
can purchase in a standard DIY store that will do or does it have to be
some special caravan/motorhome product ? If it does have to be a
specialist product any ideas which is best/ most available ?

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets with normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the fibreglass
backwall)?

Thank you,
Steve



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Old December 7th 04, 09:51 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Gordon Austin
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Posts: 253
Default Wood to FibreGlass Adhesive (glue) and External Sealant.

Try "Gorilla Glue" obtainable from any good DIY Shed or woodworkers tool
shop and it's 100% waterproof. But follow the instructions carefully,
paticularly about keeping it
off your skin, wear disposable gloves or you will need a grinder to get it
off!!!
"SandS" wrote in message
...
Hi. I need to glue a block of wood to the inside rear wall on a Motorhome
to spread the load of some backbox/bike rack supports. Is there anything I
can purchase in a standard DIY store that will do or does it have to be
some special caravan/motorhome product ? If it does have to be a
specialist product any ideas which is best/ most available ?

Also, I'm assuming its ok to seal around the external brackets with normal
UPVC frame sealant (the brackets being bolted through the fibreglass
backwall)?

Thank you,
Steve




 



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