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!$%&! BMW - a word of warning



 
 
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Old May 26th 06, 11:23 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Mat
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

Hi All,

Just wanted to pass on my BMW related woes.

I ordered a new lease BMW 320 touring in March and took great pains to
find out what towbar I needed e.g. one with twin electrics.

After getting conflicting advice from 4 different BMW sources a ordered
what I thought was right (I was told that I would need an adaptor to
split out the twin electrics @ about 75)

When the car arrived I phoned my local dealer to order the 'adaptor'
only to be told that actually the car was only wired for single
electrics and I would need a new wiring loom fitted.

Total cost 670! this is on top of the 500 already paid for the
towbar.

I complained to BMW that I was misinformed and tried to get them to
cough up for the fitting but no luck.

So if you are considering getting an 06 Beamer you have been warned!

I probably won't go ahead with the extra work as I think Ican live
without it.

I have a couple of questions, does the battery get charged when it is
plugged in on site?
Will this cause any problems when we take out van to europe this year?

Ta,

Mat

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Old May 26th 06, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Roger Mills
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mat wrote:


I have a couple of questions, does the battery get charged when it is
plugged in on site?


Plugged in to *what*? If you have a mains hookup, yes - it will charge from
the mains.

If you don't have mains, and the van is simply connected to the car, the
battery will only get charged when the car engine is running - and only then
if you have twin electrics.

Will this cause any problems when we take out van to europe this year?


If you *can't* charge the battery, it will cause problems if you want to use
more than a "batteryful" of electricity during your stay. Depends on how
long you stay and what you use 12v electricity for. If you're only using it
for water pump and fluorescent lights it will last a long time. If you have
a lot of heavy usage kit - particularly CRT-based colour TVs - it will last
a few hours!
--
Cheers,
Roger
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Old May 26th 06, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Roger Mills
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mat wrote:


I have a couple of questions, does the battery get charged when it is
plugged in on site?


Plugged in to *what*? If you have a mains hookup, yes - it will charge from
the mains.

If you don't have mains, and the van is simply connected to the car, the
battery will only get charged when the car engine is running - and only then
if you have twin electrics.

Will this cause any problems when we take out van to europe this year?


If you *can't* charge the battery, it will cause problems if you want to use
more than a "batteryful" of electricity during your stay. Depends on how
long you stay and what you use 12v electricity for. If you're only using it
for water pump and fluorescent lights it will last a long time. If you have
a lot of heavy usage kit - particularly CRT-based colour TVs - it will last
a few hours!
--
Cheers,
Roger
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Old May 26th 06, 01:04 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Roger Mills
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mat wrote:


I have a couple of questions, does the battery get charged when it is
plugged in on site?


Plugged in to *what*? If you have a mains hookup, yes - it will charge from
the mains.

If you don't have mains, and the van is simply connected to the car, the
battery will only get charged when the car engine is running - and only then
if you have twin electrics.

Will this cause any problems when we take out van to europe this year?


If you *can't* charge the battery, it will cause problems if you want to use
more than a "batteryful" of electricity during your stay. Depends on how
long you stay and what you use 12v electricity for. If you're only using it
for water pump and fluorescent lights it will last a long time. If you have
a lot of heavy usage kit - particularly CRT-based colour TVs - it will last
a few hours!
--
Cheers,
Roger
______
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monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
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Old May 27th 06, 09:58 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

Well I got my new 530d new shape last year. I specified a towbar. The
dealer said they did not supply one that costs less than 1200!!! but
would send me to a place that does.
The arranged for this specialist trailer workshop to get the right one.
I delivered the car and left them with it.
I got the German single 13pin socket that fold away and a brink detachable
towball. I already had a "Y" adaptor but discovered it had one wire missing
because it was before the changeover a few years ago. So I bought another
one from the trailer shop for 28.
It all works fine, charges the batt and runs the fridge when driving. It
all detaches or fold away when not in use so you cannot tell I have a
towball. All for 350. all in.
So go for it...Dave


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Old May 27th 06, 09:58 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Technophobe
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

Well I got my new 530d new shape last year. I specified a towbar. The
dealer said they did not supply one that costs less than 1200!!! but
would send me to a place that does.
The arranged for this specialist trailer workshop to get the right one.
I delivered the car and left them with it.
I got the German single 13pin socket that fold away and a brink detachable
towball. I already had a "Y" adaptor but discovered it had one wire missing
because it was before the changeover a few years ago. So I bought another
one from the trailer shop for 28.
It all works fine, charges the batt and runs the fridge when driving. It
all detaches or fold away when not in use so you cannot tell I have a
towball. All for 350. all in.
So go for it...Dave


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Old May 27th 06, 09:58 AM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
Technophobe
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

Well I got my new 530d new shape last year. I specified a towbar. The
dealer said they did not supply one that costs less than 1200!!! but
would send me to a place that does.
The arranged for this specialist trailer workshop to get the right one.
I delivered the car and left them with it.
I got the German single 13pin socket that fold away and a brink detachable
towball. I already had a "Y" adaptor but discovered it had one wire missing
because it was before the changeover a few years ago. So I bought another
one from the trailer shop for 28.
It all works fine, charges the batt and runs the fridge when driving. It
all detaches or fold away when not in use so you cannot tell I have a
towball. All for 350. all in.
So go for it...Dave


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Old May 30th 06, 12:21 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

If you have single electrics, and want to add the second socket, then
you don't need a new loom!

All you need is a reasonable thick piece of wire running from the
battery +ve terminal (via a suitable sueholder & fuse) to a relay at
the back and then the output from this relay (which is only on when the
engine is running/enough amps are being produced) plus an earth taking
to the appropriate pins on the second connector (you'll also need some
method of mounting said connector).

if you have a look at the faqs and wiring spects on www.towitall.co.uk
then all should become clear. If not, then a call to your local
independant trailer & tow bar shoppe for a quote should suffice.

For future ref, don't have towbars fitted by main dealers they are
either clueless, or else farm the work out to independants and then
charge you a load on top (YMMV).

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Old May 30th 06, 12:21 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

If you have single electrics, and want to add the second socket, then
you don't need a new loom!

All you need is a reasonable thick piece of wire running from the
battery +ve terminal (via a suitable sueholder & fuse) to a relay at
the back and then the output from this relay (which is only on when the
engine is running/enough amps are being produced) plus an earth taking
to the appropriate pins on the second connector (you'll also need some
method of mounting said connector).

if you have a look at the faqs and wiring spects on www.towitall.co.uk
then all should become clear. If not, then a call to your local
independant trailer & tow bar shoppe for a quote should suffice.

For future ref, don't have towbars fitted by main dealers they are
either clueless, or else farm the work out to independants and then
charge you a load on top (YMMV).

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Old May 30th 06, 12:21 PM posted to uk.rec.caravanning
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Default !$%&! BMW - a word of warning

If you have single electrics, and want to add the second socket, then
you don't need a new loom!

All you need is a reasonable thick piece of wire running from the
battery +ve terminal (via a suitable sueholder & fuse) to a relay at
the back and then the output from this relay (which is only on when the
engine is running/enough amps are being produced) plus an earth taking
to the appropriate pins on the second connector (you'll also need some
method of mounting said connector).

if you have a look at the faqs and wiring spects on www.towitall.co.uk
then all should become clear. If not, then a call to your local
independant trailer & tow bar shoppe for a quote should suffice.

For future ref, don't have towbars fitted by main dealers they are
either clueless, or else farm the work out to independants and then
charge you a load on top (YMMV).

 



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